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A Vote for Romney Is a Vote for the LDS Church: One evangelical explains why he cannot support Mitt
Patheos ^ | May 24, 2011 | Warren Cole Smith

Posted on 06/06/2011 10:36:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Dan(9698)
The Church does not endorse or support any political candidates.

Then why did Utah vote nearly 90% for romney in the last primary?

41 posted on 06/06/2011 2:42:02 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tupelo
When was the “Religion Qualification” added to the Constitution? And where is it? I cannot find it.

Mutt isn't being denied the opportunity to run for office - that is what the Article VI (iirc) addresses. That does not deny the PEOPLE to include religion as a basis for their evaluation of the qualification of that canidadate.

Bigots show up in all guises.

So do idiots who don't know what the constitution really says on a subject.

42 posted on 06/06/2011 2:52:52 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, I do know that. The use of you/your refers to those who would take this point of view, not you. Sorry for any offense.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 2:54:12 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: caww

Yours is the most cogent comment: “Obama’s distancing himself from Wright did not change how he determines the route he is taking this country in, rather it clearly shows his indoctrination under Wright plays out in Obama’s decision making.” As a supposed high priest in Mormonism, with bishops answering to him, Romney is supposed to be ‘working his way to obtaining the attributes of godhood, for that is what Mormonism teaches their god did before siring the Momronism jesus. Believing such things as Romney claims, what will such a man sell out to in order to be ‘worthy’? In the not so distant past, adherents to Mormonism sold out to polygamy as a requirement to obtain godhood. D&C 132 is still in their religious confession.


44 posted on 06/06/2011 3:00:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Colofornian

As a former Mormon, I think the author makes some great comments. There are a few things that he hints at that should be considered more about Romney’s religion.

He is dead on about it being a vote for the Mormon church. Part of the reason he had the support of the last prophet was because the LDS church is hemorrhaging members and his election will be touted as fulfilling prophecy (made by J Smith) AND that Mormons are Christians.

But the author fails to delve into major areas of Romney’s religion which would affect his philosophy as president.

Romney has been taught to place feelings over facts (burning in the bosom). That is not something we want in the white house. He not only believes in global warming, but he also believes that the American Indians are really Israelites.

He will not come out in support of Israel, simple because the LDS teach and believe that THEY are the new Israel and that Zion is in Missouri not the Middle east. This smacks of replacement theology common among White supremacist groups.

He has made solemn covenants in the LDS temple to put the LDS church first (not God, not Christ, but an organization) and the LDS prophet (Thomas S. Monson) is always deferred to.

For those who still think Mitt’s Mormonism doesn’t matter, try reading “When Salt Lake City Calls” by a 6th generation Mormon who left the LDS church, Rocky Hulse.


45 posted on 06/06/2011 3:17:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: faucetman

Yes he does, you can see the garment lines on some of his pictures.


46 posted on 06/06/2011 3:20:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Mount Athos; 2ndDivisionVet

I’m more concerned that a vote for Romney is a vote for the church of global warming.

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The same mechanisms that led Romney to believe in Global Warming (feelings over facts) STEM from his Mormon Religion. He takes the ‘truth test’ of Mormonism and applies it to everything, the LAST thing we need is someone like that in the WH and all Mormons place feelings before facts, if they get to the point where facts matter more, they end up leaving...like me.

Been there, dune that, read the Book (of Mormon), saw the (Temple) movie, wore the Holy Underwear.


47 posted on 06/06/2011 3:23:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: csuzieque

Whether Rommney has the capability to see beyond the bizarre teaching of LDS (or any doctrine) is known only to him.

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If he had the capability (or the inclination) he would be an EX-Mormon (or at least inactive as Huntsman appears to be)


48 posted on 06/06/2011 3:24:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Tupelo

It is not bigoted to consider a candidates worldview (ie Religous/philosophical stances) and how that worldview would affect his presidency.

As a Christian, it is not bigoted to speak out against a cult that drags many from Christ nor speak out against a blatant opportunity that cult is using to gain/keep followers.

As an Ex-mormon, I know way too much about Romney’s beliefs/worldview to ever trust him with this country.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 3:27:03 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: redangus

The LDS are not the Catholics and Monson (LDS prophet) is not the Pope.

Read “When Salt Lake City Calls” before you assume that Romney will act (or not act) like JFK.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 3:28:05 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: DM1

Mormons seem to practice what they preach and act a hell of a lot more Christian than some purported Christians i know.

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Then the momrons you know have you fooled (outward appearances are everything, behind closed doors is another matter) and apparently you know a lot of CINO’s (Christian in name only).

Having been on both sides of the fence, I can tell you you are incorrect in your assessment.


52 posted on 06/06/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: PapaBear3625

By the standards of the article, a Catholic should not vote for a Baptist candidate.

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Fallacy in your analogy. Both Catholics and Baptists believe in the Trinity (the point the author brought up), Mormons do not. They are polytheists.


53 posted on 06/06/2011 3:31:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: MHGinTN
As a supposed high priest in Mormonism, with bishops answering to him, Romney is supposed to be ‘working his way to obtaining the attributes of godhood, for that is what Mormonism teaches their god did before siring the Momronism jesus. Believing such things as Romney claims, what will such a man sell out to in order to be ‘worthy’?

Certainly 'anything' that will continue to position him where his twisted thinking believes will take him in his quest for Godhead.

Unfortunately people often don't consider how serious these people are, in this case Romney. They just see it as another faith different from their own. Clearly it is not "simply" a faith...but a faith which acts according to the 'world agenda' they have established and are acting on with all zeal.

So yes, Romney's decisions for our country would be played according to Mormon agenda and political ideology.....which is really an organization/corporation positioning itself on the world stage in order to gain power and authority as the world governance continues to formulate itself. Similar to the Islamic push....cloaking itself as a religion when in fact it is a political ideology for power.

Thus the Mormon's memberships pyramid of rituals and rites for advancement, (which all have a required $ fee), ...and thereby sustaining and enabling the vast hordes of investments in land, business and acquired real-estate...not to mention cash on hand the members sustain the leadership with in order to live elaborate lifestyles.

54 posted on 06/06/2011 3:32:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tupelo

Wow, I sure hope you dont’ kiss your mother with that mouth.


56 posted on 06/06/2011 3:34:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Tupelo

hypocrite


57 posted on 06/06/2011 3:34:42 PM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Dan(9698)
The (Mormon) Church does not endorse or support any political candidates.

Then you are not privy to their cause. They most certainly are supporting him and in fact I'd recommend you look closer at who they see Romney as. And it isn't just as President.

58 posted on 06/06/2011 3:36:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mount Athos
I’m more concerned that a vote for Romney is a vote for the church of global warming

Romney is a globalist...he will support that agenda. Yet with doing so he will naturally be pushing the Mormon political agenda and those in their leadership into places of control. All nation leaders are now doing so for it is no secret to any that world governance is going to be in the near future. Romney and his church leadership are anxious and plan to be a deciding role in that. Look at their rea-estate and locations of, their corporations, and where their leadership sits on boards. Then you will have a bigger picture of what the Mormon leadership is up to.

59 posted on 06/06/2011 3:42:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the choices are obama and Romney I will vote for Romney but I will not like it.
It is my belief that Romney will not make it out of the primaries.
Gov Palin will be the nominee.
60 posted on 06/06/2011 3:53:45 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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