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The Church Fathers- Mary: Ever Virgin
The Church Fathers ^ | 120AD-450AD

Posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:33 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: HarleyD; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...

The pride of hell is never satisfied.

The only solution is daily—TO THE CROSS.

And not just occasionally symbolically—but literally taking the lowly place in contrition and authentic servatude.

CHRIST HIMSELF SAID—HIS DISCIPLES

WOULD BE SERVANT OF ALL

NOT LORDING IT OVER ONE ANOTHER.

ON THAT SCORE ALONE

THE VATICAN CULT FAILS as any remotely Christian successor to Christ.


681 posted on 06/03/2011 7:18:12 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: papertyger
BTW...you should look up the definition of “blasphemy” before you use it, much less acc-use it.

In my book, practicing idolatry pretty much fits the definition. You may certainly disagree with it, but it doesn't invalidate the term's use. Praying to anyone other than God, and then trying to explain it away as a form of communication is ludicrous at best, and blasphemous indeed. When asked by his disciples, to whom did Jesus instruct them to pray?

Also -- I claim no degree in logic; but I can certainly see illogic and call it for what it is.

Have a happy day.

Hoss

682 posted on 06/03/2011 7:18:24 AM PDT by HossB86 ( NOBODY admits to being a Calvinist unless they are one. I AM ONE.)
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To: HarleyD; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...
CHRIST HIMSELF SAID--HIS DISCIPLES

WOULD BE SERVANT OF ALL

NOT LORDING IT OVER ONE ANOTHER.

ON THAT SCORE ALONE

THE VATICAN CULT FAILS UTTERLY as any remotely and even fractionally Christian successor to Christ.

683 posted on 06/03/2011 7:21:32 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: marbren

Now see, you were doing so well giving kudos to our own Mad Dawg...then you just HAD to ruin it by flushing your own credibility.

Sheesh!


684 posted on 06/03/2011 7:22:00 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Mad Dawg

Sorry, I simply forgot to give 1. an executive summary and 2. an UNQuixicated version.

Will ponder your kind responses to Marbren and I above and return to them, hopefully today. Take your time. Fine with me.

Likewise in your rural wanderings today. Yes, New Mexico days are hard to beat—though that sun do be hot in the summer!


685 posted on 06/03/2011 7:29:39 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: papertyger
Maybe you should look up the definition of prayer. No wait... let me do it for you:

prayer |pre(ə)r|

noun

a solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship : I'll say a prayer for him | the peace of God is ours through prayer.

• ( prayers) a religious service, esp. a regular one, at which people gather in order to pray together : 500 people were detained as they attended Friday prayers.

• an earnest hope or wish : it is our prayer that the current progress on human rights will be sustained.

"...addressed to God OR AN OBJECT OF WORSHIP."

You're welcome.

Hoss

686 posted on 06/03/2011 7:30:12 AM PDT by HossB86 ( NOBODY admits to being a Calvinist unless they are one. I AM ONE.)
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To: vladimir998; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...

I agree.

The Vatican groups are far more a hellish perverse set of diverse Cults than a denomination.


687 posted on 06/03/2011 7:31:43 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Claud; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...

If y’all want to use an archaic definition and pretend it’s modern English—have at it.

When you !DEMAND! that I do so, I refuse.

When y’all !DEMAND! that an UNBiblical meaning, dogma, structure, unmitigated set of farces derive from that archaic meaning be accepted as Biblical, kosher and spiritually operative and attractive,

I fiercely refuse.


688 posted on 06/03/2011 7:34:51 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: papertyger; Quix
Quix is right about idol worship. The key for everyone is faith ONLY IN The Lord Jesus Christ. We non catholics also worship idols. The one God is dealing with me now, or maybe I am done and repented of, though not sure yet because I have cash flow right now, is money.
689 posted on 06/03/2011 7:35:48 AM PDT by marbren
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To: papertyger; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...
". . . but always manage to avoid admitting said faults "in practice?"

----

That's simply utterly false.

Nevertheless, I refuse to do so on cue from the Demanding Vatican Cultists and Papist bigots.

690 posted on 06/03/2011 7:36:51 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HossB86; Amityschild; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Lera; marbren; metmom; navygal; Outership; ...
It seems to me . . .

That if they canNOT have their DAFFYNITIONARY,

Their whole house of cards collapses. Therefore, they MUST

persist in INSITING, !DEMANDING! to USE THEIR DAFFYNITIONARY and some THROW A HUGE HISSY FIT CONTINUING TO USE IT!

Sheesh! I never realized before how much like the JW and Mormon Cults the Vatican Cult is on such scores.

691 posted on 06/03/2011 7:42:46 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HossB86
In my book, practicing idolatry pretty much fits the definition.

Then your "book" is in error. Words mean things, and don't mean other things. Ironic that you presume to lecture others on what words mean on this very thread.

You may certainly disagree with it, but it doesn't invalidate the term's use.

Actually...yes it does. Sure, you can use words to mean anything you like, but that's what's called "wrong." Of course now I'm doubting you know what "invalidate" means, too.

Also -- I claim no degree

Then by what right do you presume to advise others on matters of which you are clearly ignorant?

692 posted on 06/03/2011 7:43:58 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom

How much are we BID for the

MetMom plastic idols concession?

How about the MetMom Rosary concession?

We have to attend to these lofty priorities in proper order, after all.


693 posted on 06/03/2011 7:44:32 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl; xone; GiovannaNicoletta; Quix

Thank You Alamo-Girl for providing Scriptural warrant that is for the arrest of the replacement theology lie.


694 posted on 06/03/2011 7:46:16 AM PDT by marbren
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To: ctdonath2
If one must follow convoluted reasoning
to achieve an absurd conclusion,
then the conclusion is probably wrong.



INDEED!

695 posted on 06/03/2011 7:47:18 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: marbren; Mad Dawg

Thanks for your kind words.

I agree about Mad Dawg, BTW.

LUB Bro.


696 posted on 06/03/2011 7:48:57 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Nevertheless, I refuse to do so on cue from the Demanding Vatican Cultists and Papist bigots.

Thus demonstrating my point.....

697 posted on 06/03/2011 7:50:11 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger; marbren

Seems to me

Marbren’s credibility continues to

RISE

in

GOD’S EYES.


698 posted on 06/03/2011 7:50:44 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HossB86

Now, now.

What a dastardly deed!

You should know by now that shorn of their DAFFYNITIONARY,

Vatican Cult members are reduced to frothing at their fingers.

/sarc


699 posted on 06/03/2011 7:52:06 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: papertyger; marbren
Then by what right do you presume to advise others on matters of which you are clearly ignorant?

Most of the frequent posting Vatican Cultists hereon

appear to have PhD's in precisely that!

And Proddys DON'T DO THAT.

However, even if we did--we'd merely be following y'all's lead!

700 posted on 06/03/2011 7:56:21 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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