Posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:33 AM PDT by marshmallow
QUIX: However . . . quiet “Christian” places are not overly plentiful.I agree, Quix. It used to be churches were open sometimes all day, but because of vandals, that's no longer the case. And PNSN, I think the joining with other prayerful people also intensifies the peace. I've never witnessed anything like it. I usually dose off a few seconds or so.
PNSN: for me it is....my home.
THANKS, THANKS.
I’ll be sure and not go around looking for it after dark, dressed like a Jihadi!
Thanks.
I understand.
Appreciate the info.
Welllllll my bedroom is certainly that.
And often enough my Laz-Y-Boy.
However, alternate spots can be refreshing as well.
Certainly warranted . . . prayers for such folks are greatly needed, imho.
However, you might ask The Lord where to spend your precious prayer time!
Indeed. I’ll ask.
And gives these 3 or 4 times a day. The morning prayer, where a saint of the day is listed and prayed to. A mid-morning prayer to sustain us as we go on to the afternoon, a late afternoon prayer for thanks for the word of the day and how it was used in prayer, and finally on to the evening vespers. The prayer to pray for more prayers to be written, so more prayer time could be arranged each day.
Nothing like pre-printed, pre-written pre-approved prayers to make it feel from the heart. I supppose God is happy. THey sent Him copies so He could keep up...
Another reason I HAVE to have a lazy boy.
"It's for my relationship with God, honey. I have to have this. It's important!"
You think she'll go for it?
I am told that among the Dominican novices, slang for a nap is "St. Joseph meditation."
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Smvoice: I suppose your bitter mockery is directed at the "Daily Office", aka the "Liturgy of the Hours.(LOTH)" No Catholic lay person is obliged to "pray the hours" and few are obliged to pray all. Of my own free will I made a commitment to pray two of the hours and sometimes add two more.
One piece of mockery which the LOTH deserve came from Archbishop Cranmer who simplified the daily office when he made the Anglican Prayer Book. He said, more or less, that figuring what prayers to say on a particular day often took more time than it did to say them. Guilty as charged, except that there are little 'ephemeral' guides that do all the heavy lifting for one.
I guess the complaint is that it's all prescribed. Where's the spontaneity? I can see that, and if ALL one did was liturgical prayer, there would be a problem. But, even if read alone, the LOTH is about the communion. All over the world Catholics are praying more or less the same psalms and singing more or less the same hymns. Especially when, as I rarely do, I pray in Latin, I am doing what Catholics have done for hundreds of years: pleading, whining, praising, triumphing, complaining and not only with Catholics but with our older brothers who also pray the Psalms.
To dance together, a couple has to agree on the steps and then follow them. The kind of dancing where one improvises all the way is also fun, but it necessarily has less togetherness. Fun dancing will involve sometimes following steps, sometimes improvising. If someone who only knows how to Boogaloo were to mock me because I sometimes waltz with a lovely woman in my arms, that's fine. As the even ancient prophets, the Contours -- and by "ancient", I'm referring to the early sixties, have sung, "I can mash potato(e); I can do the twist ..." AND I can waltz. I like 'em all.
If you pray Matins, Lauds, Vespers, and Compline, you start and end your day with group prayer, even if you are alone. If you pray all the hours, you through almost the entire Psalter every four weeks. Is that bad?
If you pray Matins (now called the "Office of Readings" and released from being restricted to morning use) you get a sizable meditation from Scripture and from a work by the fathers or by a council.
If you look around in a Catholic parish you can tell who reads Matins because often they'll be saying to one another something like, "Wasn't that an amazing passage today?"
So mock on. The LOTH is a gift, prayer which spurs further prays and brings me closer to my friends as together we grow closer to God in His Word, especially in the Psalms.
So, you call that big yellow-orange thing the "sun", huh? Let me consult the Fathers and get back to you.
;-)
I am content to move by inches as long as the motion is toward some kind of understanding.
I respect that some . . . e.g. you . . .
seem to benefit fromt the prescribed, scripted prayer thing.
And, even I sometimes write out prayers that others find great benefit from.
On the whole, I think I’d feel dead spiritually without spontaneous heart-felt prayer.
As Eric From wrote decades ago in THE ART OF LOVING
UNDERSTANDING
is a part of love.
Likewise back at ya.
You are making an assumption here - first that you assume you need to teach me about prayer and secondly that I don't join others in prayer. You might want to check yourself before making those major leaps. I am fully aware of powerful prayer/worship and all it entails. Corporate Prayer isn't a one time or sometime event for me. Nor do I pray with anyone that prays to anyone other than The Father.I wasn't trying to teach you about prayer, or make any type of major leap. I was explaining Adoration of Our Lord, as to why I think it might be so peaceful there (in addition to the fact that Christ is present).
Me too.
Fr needs a ‘like’ button.
You hide it well. Does Christ know you?
I believe that you have previously posted that you think that those who pray to Jesus and/or the Holy Spirit are committing blasphemy.
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