Posted on 04/03/2011 8:11:07 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Imagine that! Someone getting Zotted on an LDS thread!
Hey bcsco, welcome to the party...
Two Godwin's law episodes in one weekend from the pro Mormon crowd!?!
Hum...
Desperation, guess the Grand Poo-Ba meeting ain't goin’ to good...
Bye troll. Heh heh heh...
My, how the high and mighty have fallen...
Well, the leaders or rather Prophets, since the beginning of LDS have called Christians by that epithet.
I won’t repost it as I’m sure you’ve seen it a million times but if the Prophets state as much and starkly, why wouldn’t we interpret that to be part of church doctrine as they speak what God says they should?
That is a misnomer.
Artices of Faith
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
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Nice shot.
LOL
He cracks me up. His tone is funny.
He’s a former LDS if I recall?
BTW My check to FR will be in the mail tomorrow. Hope your health is still improving.
Right on Brothuh!
BTW, every once in a while, the last two days my screen automatically takes me to the donation page. I didn’t click on it and will later today but did you write a new script?
Glad to see you posting again.
Fred (fproxxy222 or whatever) has been a little spicy on the West SPAM sites...
Hmmmm... no, we’ve made no changes recently. Pretty strange.
Thank you very much!!
That confirms my reply to MarkBsnr in his post. The verses deal with our temporal body vs. our Heavenly body. Of course, I knew that from familiarity with those verses, but didn’t know their being co-opted.
In fact, I’m saddened to see the information has to come from non-Mormons instead of one who professes their faith and was specifically asked for clarification. Not only was there no clarification, but a snub.
I asked what I believe to be a legitimate question. The LDS faith claims to be built on both the Bible and their own religious books. So, one would believe those sources to be in concordance. And that was the foundation of my inquiry; what is the concordance between the Bible, D&C, PoGP on ‘3 degrees of glory’?
If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.
They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.
They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.
Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.
You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.
Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their former Church.
Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.
After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.
The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, quote and straw man attack that. Almost without fail you will see examples of this following this post.
Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think. So again, seek the truth. They aren't providing it. Use your God-given brain and discernment.
Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:
http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/
Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.
Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.
Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.
I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.
Doh!!!
and in the next post!
Dang. Not sure we were done playing with him.
Oh well.
Peace on Earth....
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