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Carefully Schooled in the First Principles and Ordinances (REAL LDS/Mormon)
LDS.org ^ | Richard E. Bennett

Posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:10 AM PST by Paragon Defender

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1 posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:14 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Once again, a mormon lame witness to the world.


2 posted on 02/14/2011 11:06:31 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender
"“Who among us knew the first principles of the Gospel of Christ until we heard them from the Elders of Israel? Who told us that it was right to be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins? Who taught us it was right to receive the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands? … It was communicated to Joseph Smith by the opening of the heavens, by the ministering of Holy Angels, and by the voice of God. … Until these communications were made known [to Joseph], the inhabitants of the world were wrapped in ignorance; they knew nothing about God nor the principles of eternity, nor the way to save themselves nor anybody else.”"

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That right there...is an abomination...A lie from the Devil himself...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

3 posted on 02/14/2011 11:14:03 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Godzilla
I kind of like this one:

In 2 Nephi 5, we are told how when Nephi landed in the New World, things like gold, silver, and all manner of precious gems were too be found everywhere in abundance. Only a short time later, they built a temple much like Solomon's except that no gold, silver, or precious gems were used "because they were not to be found upon the land"!

4 posted on 02/14/2011 11:15:09 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: Paragon Defender
www.exmormonsforjesus.org

www.mormoncurtain.com

http://4mormon.org/

http://www.concernedchristians.com/

5 posted on 02/14/2011 11:20:37 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: ReverendJames
In 2 Nephi 5, we are told how when Nephi landed in the New World, things like gold, silver, and all manner of precious gems were too be found everywhere in abundance. Only a short time later, they built a temple much like Solomon's except that no gold, silver, or precious gems were used "because they were not to be found upon the land"!

You are aware of that one too LOL, ah yes, the most perfect work.

6 posted on 02/14/2011 11:36:01 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender

This is the same Joseph Smith who will sit next to Jesus to determine if we get into heaven (they’re both equals, doncha’ know) . . . the same one who dreamt up the planet Kolab . . . the same Joseph Smith who had chariots, horses, and numerous non-indigenous plants all over Central America.

Anyone who follows this stuff is sure as hell destined for a very long visit to Hell. And how very sad that no mormon will listen to logical criticism of this madness. But that’s their choice.


8 posted on 02/14/2011 11:44:37 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Paragon Defender


Turn the Enterprise around Number One. It appears there's no intelligent life on Planet Kolob....Engage!
9 posted on 02/14/2011 11:45:17 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: ReverendJames

“ONly a short time later”-—can you give us the second scripture reference so we can check it?


10 posted on 02/14/2011 11:47:51 AM PST by eagles
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To: eagles; F15Eagle; ReverendJames
2 Nephi 5:15 And I did teach my people to build buildings, and to work in all manner of wood, and of iron, and of copper, and of brass, and of steel, and of gold, and of silver, and of precious ores, which were in great abundance.
5:16 And I, Nephi, did build a temple; and I did construct it after the manner of the temple of Solomon save it were not built of so many precious things; for they were not to be found upon the land, wherefore, it could not be built like unto Solomon's temple. But the manner of the construction was like unto the temple of Solomon; and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine.
11 posted on 02/14/2011 11:51:28 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender
Early Church history shows that the Prophet Joseph Smith came to know of these saving principles in at least three ways: (1) from heavenly messengers, (2) from the consequences of some unwise decisions, (3) from his translation of ancient scripture, and (4) from frequent divine inspiration. It was a careful schooling, prepared and profound.

Interesting that no where in that list is "reading the bible."

12 posted on 02/14/2011 11:52:47 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: laweeks

I think your conclusions that God will send all mormons to hell-—or I guess anyone else who doesn’t believe exactly what you do, is quite sad.

I’m LDS. I admit, there are things that my faith professes that I have doubts about it. But that is true with every other church I researched. There is stuff in every religion that seems a bit hard to believe.
That said, what I DO believe, with all my heart, is that God judges the heart. He has promised us that the two greatest commandments are to LOVE God and Love your neighbor. There are many mormons I know that are every bit as good and sincere in loving God and serving Him as they are in other faiths. Even if they are wrong in some things-—I dont’ believe for one minute they are going to hell. Call me a heretic, but the God I love is merciful enough to look the past the externals and judge the heart.


13 posted on 02/14/2011 11:57:00 AM PST by eagles
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To: Godzilla

I also like the story of the storm tossed boats on their way here, their troubles and solution is hysteric.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 12:04:07 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: Paragon Defender
 
- Warning -
 
This post has been flagged as Cultic Mormon Spam
by Christians on FreeRepublic.com
 
Let the reader beware!


15 posted on 02/14/2011 12:04:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: eagles

“Call me a heretic, but the God I love is merciful enough to look the past the externals and judge the heart”

Then you must be a heretic. It’s very clear. The only path to Heaven is through Jesus Christ . . . I didn’t write the Bible . . . God did. If you want to try to toddle into Heaven by believing what a rather iffy-character dreamt up back in the early 1820s, then, so be it. I will rely on God’s written word . . . not that of a mortal and horribly imperfect human being with a very shady pre-morman past.


16 posted on 02/14/2011 12:04:23 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Paragon Defender
Here is a letter from the Geographic Society.

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The National Geographic Society is just one group of many that can't find any evidence supporting the BoM. In fact, they have found evidence that refutes what Joseph Smith has claimed. If there are no Nephites or Lamanites, then the whole book of mormon is wrong.

17 posted on 02/14/2011 12:06:06 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Paragon Defender

Mormon Missionary Deception Method:

1. Convince you of their sincerity
2. Trick you into expressing faith first in the Book of Mormon by praying and asking for a sign (this takes you off the objective ground of Biblical truth and puts you into subjective ground of feelings)
3. Convince you that the Bible has errors in its translation
4. Trick you into expressing faith in the prophet Joseph Smith
5. Trick you into expressing faith in the Restoration of the “Gospel” (see Galatians Chapter one)
6. Get you all the way into the baptismal font...

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7. ONLY THEN... you will learn the true DEVIANT doctrines of
Mormonism. At this point, it is too late! You only have
feelings as a basis of truth! You will believe anything.

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Such as the following “truths” taught in mormonism ...

The 3 Mormon Earth gods:

The mormon “Heavenly Father” used to be a regular Joe - a man, but became God. You will have to swallow that God could sin!

The Jesus of mormonism was a created spirit being who became one of the three mormon earth gods
The mormonic Holy Spirit is also a created spirit being. He doesn’t have a body because he is on probation! Yes, he was naughty. He sinned.

In short, the mormon earth gods are sinful, created spirit beings. But there is more...

The FOURTH Mormon Earth God!

The Mormon Heavenly Mother God!

Yes, believe it or not, it turns out there is a mormonic “Mother God!”

... SHE and the father god have sex
... SHE is eternally pregnant
... SHE pops out spirit children who will some day get a human body on earth
... SHE is probably not alone! Mormons still believe and teach eternal polygamy.

The Mormonic Pantheon of gods:

There are TRILLIONS of mormon gods on other planets.
Hindus have approximately 350 million gods. They are
pikers compared to mormons!

How do they get so many gods? They manufacture more all the
time:

... Any mormon male can be a God with his own planet, mother goddesses, and spirit kids to worship him.
... Becoming a mormon god means lots of works to attain the god-level. This is why you see mormons working so hard. Now you know why.
... Speaking of levels, heaven has three levels.
... All the trillions of gods in the mormon pantheon get together regularly over spring break in Kolob Beach to “counsel together”

As our thread poster would finish with... I testify truthfully about the false heresy of the cult of mormonism.

Reader beware of these Anti-Christ teachings.

What will your life be like as a mormon?

... you have to give 10%?
... your bishop is there to ask if you gave your FULL tithe
... your bishop is also there to ask many probing, personal, embarrassing questions
... Did we mention you will
... you will have to complete Masonic Temple rituals that involve strangers touching your private parts
... You will have to wear magic underwear 24/7/365

Once inside the Morg, you have to accept it ALL to move up the chain towards Godhood.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 12:08:31 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Godzilla

Thanks for that follow up. It was only one verse away from being abundant to not found. And since parts the temple of Solomon are still extant in Jerusalem, why are there no parts of it that Nephi had built still around in America?


20 posted on 02/14/2011 12:08:49 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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