Posted on 01/10/2011 3:41:05 PM PST by Quix
Might get to reformatting it later.
Folks won’t tend to read masses of text.
Many don’t read long posts regardlees so I wasn’t expecting a bumper crop of comments. Still, it seemed worth doing given all the REPLACEMENTARIAN false witness against God Almighty and His Everlasting Promises.
Excellent use of HTML. Have you thought of turning it into a book? Or have you already published your meditations? I’m investigating connectspace.com, a site sponsored by Amazon.com for self-publishing.
THANKS for your kind words.
Idle musings occasionally.
Will check out your link. Mixed feelings about Amazon.com
Not sure what the level of interest might be.
Humbled and honored by your kind words.
I hope to get Joel 3 up today.
Blessings,
Which entirely misses the point that He does keep His promises.
Certainly He has kept His promises to Abraham. We know this because the Jews are the longest continuing (geneologically and culturally) human group on the face of the planet some 4,000 years old as a People and still counting. And this despite the fact that the Jews have been persecuted almost everywhere they have been "dispersed" throughout all of human history, from ancient to modern times. Truly they have been suffering servants of God and it seems of mankind as well.
JMHO FWIW.
So very true! Thank you for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!
Amen!
Much agree.
Thx thx.
Hmmmmm
Doesn’t work.
Perhaps you have something wrong about that link/name?
Yes, there's also www.lulu.com, founded by one of the guys behind Red Hat Linux.
THX THX
Will check them out.
Will you be “publishing” your thesis there? I would certainly read it (if possible ... lol).
JOEL The Message Version |
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Joel 3(The Message) God Is a Safe Hiding Place |
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1-3"In those days, yes, at that very time when I put life back together again for Judah and Jerusalem, I'll assemble all the godless nations. I'll lead them down into Judgment Valley And put them all on trial, and judge them one and all because of their treatment of my own people Israel. They scattered my people all over the pagan world and grabbed my land for themselves. They threw dice for my people and used them for barter. They would trade a boy for a whore, sell a girl for a bottle of wine when they wanted a drink. |
In THOSE days! at THAT VERY TIME! When I (I AM THAT I AM) PUT LIFE back together again! FOR JUDAH AND JERUSALEM! OBVIOUSLY this is not 70AD! Life was !NOT! remotely put back together for Judah OR for Jerusalem--it was shredded! Life has !NOT! been put back together again for Judah and Jerusalem in terms of many of God's PROMISES to them--lo these 2,000 years. Hasn't happened! Yes, 1948 was the beginning of setting the stage for such. And 1967 was yet another incremental step toward that day. And when the Temple is rebuilt, it will be another incremental step toward that day. And even when the Anti-Christ sets his evil image up in the new Temple's Holy of Holies, that too, will be another incremental step to that GLORIOUS day--then a scant roughly 3.5 years off. JEHOVAH WILL ASSEMBLE "all the godless nations" and "lead them down into Judgment Valley--evidently the vast plain of Megiddo as other related prophecies make clear. He WILL "put them all on trial, and judge them one and all . . ." Because of their treatment of grafted-in Gentile Christians? NOPE. Perhaps some may get an extra lick or two for that but that's NOT the BIBLICAL reason! BECAUSE of their treatment of MY OWN PEOPLE ISRAEL! Ankd who are THESE Israeli's? Grafted in Gentile Christian spiritual seed of Abraham? !NOPE! NOT A CHANCE! . . . because of their treatment of MY OWN PEOPLE, ISRAEL. They scattered MY PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PAGAN WORLD. Jehovah warned them in Scripture He would do that--scatter them. And He did. Yet, He is also holding the nations He did it through accountable for the ruthlessness with which they did it. and grabbed MY LAND for themselves! Who's land? JEHOVAH'S LAND that HE, THE I AM THAT I AM chose for HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE--the blood offspring of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. . . . that HE, JEHOVAH CHOSE--FOR HIS OWN GLORY! He's not talking about Rome! Nor Constantinople. Nor Athens. Nor London or Canterbury. Nor Milwaukee. Nor Springfield. Nor Machu Picu. Nor Lasa. Nor Mecca. NOPE! YEH RUH SHA LIAM--JERUSALEM! I AM's HOLY CITY! THE GOD OF ALL THAT IS--HIS CHOSEN CITY. For HIS CHOSEN people and bloodline. The pagans grabbed MY LAND for themselves. And still they left it to lie in waste as prophecies predicted. They stole it, neglected it and abused it and left it to ruin. They didn't really even want it until GOD'S CHOSEN RETURNED to it and made it bloom again. Then the pagan's jealousy burned bright--as predicted in Biblical prophecy. They threw dice for MY PEOPLE . . . used them for barter . . . traded a boy for a whore [and used boys like whores] . . . selling girls for a drink. They thought they could get away with it. They didn't think or thought that ALMIGHTY GOD wasn't looking or wouldn't care or wouldn't bother. Besides, He scattered them all over the pagan world, HE must be done with them--fed up with them. He's trashed them. Let's trash them, too. |
4-8 "As for you, Tyre and Sidon and Philistia, |
Ahhhh . . . why should ALMIGHTY GOD bother any further with Lebanon and Gaza? You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem! NOT the people of Rome or Athens or Canterbury or Milwaukee or Springfield. !NOPE! The PEOPLE of JUDAH AND JERUSALEM! It's interesting that HE emphasizes JUDAH *AND* JERUSALEM--A REUNITED KINGDOM OF ISRAEL. And HE is going to reverse the slavery, in addition to freeing any remaining ISRAELITE slaves. HE will sell THEM to the far off Sabeans! The Sabeans were a troublesome lot and still are. This link notes that Muhammad incorporated parts of the religion of the Sabeans into Islam: http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-koran-fairy-tales-dr-morey.htm This link gives the location in Southern Arabia--near Aden, as I understand it--as well as the geneologies involved: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=20&letter=S I wonder how many Sabeans are current Islamic pirates in the region. This link notes that the Sabeans are in Yemen: http://formerthings.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/the-sabeans-and-cush-isaiah-45/ "The Sabaean kingdom was located in what is now the Aseer region in southwestern Yemen." It SOUNDS LIKE there may even be slavery in the Millenial reign of Christ. Wow! What a curious thing! |
God's Verdict. 9-11 Announce this to the godless nations: |
Hmmmmmm, interesting. Announce this to the GODLESS Nations. Yet, other prophecies make clear that even Israel at the beginning of the Great Tribulation will be largely away from God herself. This passage is interesting. God is kind of tweak-i-ly chiding the pagan nations to gear up boldly to be thrashed, trashed and slaughtered by ALMIGHTY GOD in behalf of HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE . . . And in BEHALF OF HIS GLORY. |
12Let the pagan nations set out |
He's calling them to JUDGMENT VALLEY. What an uncheery call! ALMIGHTY GOD on the Bench of justice and judgment! And there's nothing but crimes against HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE with no redemptive covering for the guilty. The surrounding nations are in for it. They'll never be a threat to Israel ever again. |
Swing the sickle the harvest is ready. Stomp on the grapes the winepress is full. The wine vats are full, overflowing with vintage evil. |
Ahhhh the source of the image of THE GRAPES OF WRATH throughout the ages. Evil has multiplied and peaked abroad in the world and particularly against God's CHOSEN PEOPLE. Now it is time for ALMIGHTY GOD to settle accounts. HIS "bias" wins. |
14"Mass confusion, mob uproar |
Chaos in the VALLEY OF DECISION! Those who ignored the HOUR OF DECISION in choosing God get to face God as judge in the VALLEY OF DECISION. Will there be any opportunity for a decision for God in the valley? Perhaps. Scripture says All who earnestly SEEK GOD, SHALL find HIM. And all who call upon the Name of The Lord shall be saved. Perhaps those truths and principles will operate even then and there. I wouldn't want to bank eternity on it, however. |
15-17"The sky turns black, |
Hmmmm . . . Another warning about the sun, moon and stars going dark. OBVIOUSLY that did NOT happen in 70AD. Yet again the REPLACEMENTARIAN, PRETERIST et al hogwash bites the dust on this one verse alone. GOD ALMIGHTY ROARS FROM ZION! !NOT! from Rome. Not from Canterbury. Not from Springfield. Not from Athens . . . FROM JERUSALEM! This drama is NOT ABOUT grafted-in Gentile Christians. This supreme drama is about GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE--chosen not for their jollies and welfare but FOR HIS GLORY and in honor of HIS BFFE--Best Friend For Eternity--Abraham. Earth AND sky quake in terror. What an odd phrasing. Even the sky QUAKES . . . IN TERROR. |
But God is a safe hiding place, a granite safe house for the children of Israel. Then you'll know for sure that I'm your God, Living in Zion, my sacred mountain. Jerusalem will be a sacred city, posted: 'no trespassing.' |
YET, GOD HIMSELF is a granite safe house for the children of Isarel, of Jacob. THEN--THEN THEN Jerusalem will be established as a Sacred city and no pagans or unholy anything nor anyone will enter therein. |
Milk Rivering Out of the Hills18-21 "What a day!Wine streaming off the mountains, Milk rivering out of the hills, water flowing everywhere in Judah, A fountain pouring out of God's Sanctuary, watering all the parks and gardens! |
What a striking image--wine streaming off the mountains and milk RIVERING out of the hills. No. I don't think it's symbolic. I believe it is a literal description of a currently still furture event. The GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB, CREATOR GOD IS THAT LAVISH. Ahhhhh a foundain flowing OUT OF GOD'S SANCTUARY. Sounds like the New Jerusalem has come down out of Heaven and the River of Life is flowing out of the Sanctuary as other Biblical Prophets have described. |
But Egypt will be reduced to weeds in a vacant lot, Edom turned into barren badlands, All because of brutalities to the Judean people, the atrocities and murders of helpless innocents. |
Yet Egypt will be a ruined wasteland, along with Saudia Arabia. They will have tilted against God's CHOSEN PEOPLE one too many times. ALL BECAUSE of BRUTALITIES to the JUDEAN PEOPLE, the atrocities and murders of helpless innocents. |
Meanwhile, Judah will be filled with people, Jerusalem inhabited forever. The sins I haven't already forgiven, I'll forgive." God has moved into Zion for good. |
JUDAH will be filled with people, JERUSALEM in habited FOREVER. That did !NOT! happen in 70AD. It's absurdly idiotic to pretend it did. GOD ALMIGHTY HAS MOVED INTO ZION FOR GOOD! BLESSED BE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB! BLESSED THE THE LORD GOD JEHOVAH! BLESSED BE CREATOR GOD--KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS--THE LAMB WHO WAS SLAIN! VERY OBVIOUSLY THAT did NOT happen in 70AD! |
The Message (MSG) Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson |
Thank you so very much for sharing this, dear brother in Christ!
Joel Three, post 33, hmmm ... look forward to reading it, and I thank you. All blessings all ways always dear Bro.
Thanks for your kind reply.
I don’t think I proofed chapter 3 as well as the poor job I did on 1 & 2. Sorry for any errors.
Bill Burns, excerpt here:
Call forth those things which you cannot yet see. Do so by faith and declare the victory for surely it shall come unto you, says the Lord Most High.
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http://ft111.com/thetrumpet.htm
See January 17, 2011
SMALL STRAWS IN A SOFT WIND by Marsha Burns — 1/17/11:
Even though your life seems to be transitional, begin to think of the steps you take as foundational. Don’t think that your thoughts, words, and actions are unimportant. What you do now will actually frame and give meaning to your future.
Give thought and consider carefully what is happening in you and around you and respond according to the leading of My Spirit, says the Lord.
Deuteronomy 11:24a Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours.
THX THX.
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