Mass exodus

WORLD Magazine ^ | Jan 15, 2011 | Alisa Harris

[presently no screen name]

We know that annulments do not equal Catholic Divorces

We know that annulments equal divorce. It's the Catholic way of shaking down the rich.

"So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." - Matthew 19:6 ......What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." - Mark 10:9

Nothing new, just more Scripture the Vatican ignores; ie, - Teddy Kennedy.

Here some more Scripture the Vatican ignores.

"Jesus replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's Word and obey it."

"Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."

"then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the WORD OF God."

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones"

Catholics posting Scripture is laughable! Stick to the Catechism - that's the Catholic bible.

[Mears]

I am not a religious scholar and I'm not particularly religious,but I've seen two friends go through the annulment process. One actually had two annulments. Two of those marriages were after 20 years and several children. To say that those marriages weren't valid is absolute nonsense.

Years ago I read Shelia Rausch Kennedy's book and that was a real eye-opener for me. I wasn't aware of the very complicated process until that book came out.

I'm divorced and was married in the Catholic Church but I would never get an annulment I would consider it hurtful to my 5 kids.

[presently no screen name]

So now you fancy yourself an expert in Canon Law too? Wow, all of that from sleeping through the Baltimore Catechism.

Who are you to comment on what metmom did or didn't do? Did she tell you that? Or is it one of your 'making it personal' posts again?

It seems that your smug little answers fall short of the real problems of the world. Thank God we have a Church that is prepared to deal with these issues like adults and not like dismissive insolent children.

Who are the adults - the homosexual priests? And the dismissive insolent children - the altar boys victims?

The RCC is a safe haven for homosexuals - the church pays off the victim and the priest is not held accountable. If the church didn't cover him, he'd be in jail. The RCC is truly a SAFE HAVEN for homosexuals. Tell us, again, how the RCC is prepared to deal with these issues like adults. THROW MONEY AT IT! THE LIBERAL WAY!

[presently no screen name]

What’s the priest doing agreeing to marrying anyone under those circumstances?

Probably because the priest slept through Baltimore catechism.

[caww]

There is NO allusion to anything like annulment at all in the Bible.

Correct! Though it does speak of seperation for a time, with the encouragement to come back together. Annulment almost seems like the Vatican is blessing the couple in a rather undignified way.

[wmfights]

Who are you to comment on what metmom did or didn't do?

NL, I don't always follow these threads is there something you are accusing MM of, or that came up in an earlier thread?

[editor-surveyor]

What you’re apparently not understanding, is that the differences between the different ‘forms’ of ‘protestantism’ differ in mostly insignificant ways that amount to less than wallpaper patterns compared to the schisms among Roman catholic parishes.
.
While there are obviously many tares among all the denominations, I am confident that the percentage in protestant churches is significantly lower than in caatholic churches.

I base much of this opinion on the scriptural ignorance demonstrated by the more active catholic postors here at FR.
.

[Mears]

All of the situations you mentioned in your post could be handled very easily without annulment-———just allow them to marry again in the church if they choose to do so.

It would be a lot simpler than going through the complicated,and often hurtful, process that takes place in Rome,especially if only one person wants the annulment.

God can make the final decision on the state of their souls.

Enjoy your coffee,by the way,I'm through with this topic.
Politics and religion,you know. Tough subjects,

[presently no screen name]

Still curious as to why you didn’t ping me when you responded to my post and quoted it by copying it and pasting it.

You still didn't get an answer, metmom?

NL - should we put on a pot of coffee and anticipate a long wait? ? What's the problem here?

[Quix]

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

[count-your-change]

Those quotes demonstrate why there some posters I simply won’t reply to, to do so might lend a legitimacy to their comments that is wholly undeserved.

[Quix]

Just curious . . .

Which of those applied to the Kennedys?

[CTrent1564]

editor-surveyor:

The scriptural ignorance you are referring to among Catholics on here, which I am one, is in my view, more likely how those Scriptures were understood down thru the centuries and how they are understood by the Catholic Church differ from your personal view. At least that is how I see it.

I am not sure that the differences among Protestantism is insignificant. I think you are trying to minimize the difference. There are at least 30 different Presyberian groups. The Lutherans in this country are 3 different groups. Bapist are divided into Southern, Northern, Free Will, Calvinist-Baptist, ones that have “Arminian” (sic} theology and that is not counting the various stripes of pentalcostalism, emergent church, mega church, health and welfare theology, and on, and on, and on, and one.

Here is an article from Christianity today that, according to the study they cite, there are 38,000 Christian confessions and since there is the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, the rest belong to the Protestants, i.e your folks.

http://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/christiantoday.htm

Here is another study that does more analysis of the same study cited by the Protestant Christianity today article.

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm

Finally, here is a link to the Calvinist-Reformed Seminary’s Center For the Study of Global Christianity. In one of the links, you will find that the center collects data on “9,000 Christian denominations”

http://www.gordonconwell.edu/lifelong_learners/globalchristianity

Unfortunately, much of their work is password protected but if you go to this site [remember, it is a Reformed-Protestant Seminary], there data clearly says Protanstism is growing exponentially.

[editor-surveyor]

You’re picking your nose on this. The differences you imagine are not real. Even the Arminians still share the same belief as to the basis of salvation; they just take the fearful read on a couple of verses, which weakens their faith a little, but the effects thereof are small and mostly personal.

[metmom]

You answer a question, then I will answer a question....unless you just punt. Until then its still your ball.

Fine. We'll start with the one I asked you about why you responded to my post, quoted me, and didn't ping me to it.

Everyone knows that removing a name in the *To:* field requires deliberate effort.

[Natural Law]

"What’s the priest doing agreeing to marrying anyone under those circumstances?"

You answer a question, then I will answer a question....unless you just punt. Until then its still your ball.

[metmom]

Probably because the priest slept through Baltimore catechism.

[Natural Law]

"We'll start with the one I asked you about why you responded to my post, quoted me, and didn't ping me to it."

I wasn't responding to you, I was commenting on your statement. You were/are active on this thread and had posts concurrent with mine. You were in no danger of being talked about behind your back. Besides, I find nothing in any of the posts you addressed to me other than formal protocol. Courtesy is reciprocal. When common courtesy is extended to me I will return it in kind.

[metmom]

NL, I don't always follow these threads is there something you are accusing MM of, or that came up in an earlier thread?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Let me know if you get an answer. I haven't yet.