Because of the Protestant Reformers Beliefs On Mary

Why I Am a Catholic ^ | 12/16/10 | Frank Weathers

[Deo volente]

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

[Judith Anne]

Sometimes, I think these proddie posts are just software programmed to post the same falsehood over and over and over.

You know, a post about the Blessed Virgin, automatically calls up an answering post about idol worship. A post about Catholic teaching, automatically calls up sola scriptura post, etc. etc. etc. Some meaningless posts are just thrown in for a cartoon effect, not in any particular order.

[Quix]

Maybe 2-20% of the RC posts would fit that criteria.

Perhaps my cohorts would give higher percentages.

I’ve been persistently embarrassed

FOR THE RC’S

because of the weakness, shallowness, often irrationality, and certainly the UNBiblical nature of their posts.

[Quix]

Good.

This is an ENGLISH forum, after all.

[Deo volente]

That argument won't wash with me. I've posted here, many times, copious Biblical references to back up Catholic teachings. Most of the time, I've received dismissive responses such as, “Do you really expect me to look at a Catholic site?” Things like that...

So, forget it!

[RobbyS]

Rant on. Obviously the only opinion you will entertain is your own. Still you might consider that, just maybe, you don’t understand what is said.

[Deo volente]

I’ve been persistently embarrassed FOR THE RC’S

Oh, spare me...

[Quix]

Such statements merely affirm that you evidently know virtually nothing about me.

You certainly don’t KNOW ME.

[Judith Anne]

ROFL! Not a chance.

[RobbyS]

Before I quit, have to give this a shot, asuming the quote is right. of course: 6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power. "Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

And why do you say this, one might ask Richard.? Because of Christ. Through Mary, Christ takes on flesh, become a part of history. He power, her grace, comes from the Spirit who "overshadowed her" as he once overshadowed the tabernacle of the people of Israel. You don't seem to think that the Word became flesh, but simply passed through Mary like light passing through a pane of glass.

[RobbyS]

I know what you say. And what you say is a denunciation of the whole Catholic Church because you don’t like the tone of a single book. What you say is that you hate what the book says because you can’t fit it to your theology.

[Iscool]

Amen doesn’t register in Latin???

[Iscool]

With all due respect, that's one of the strangest things I've ever read here. Many thousands of posts have been submitted by Roman Catholics on countless threads, giving cogent and detailed answers to Protestant questions, objections, etc. Catholic teachings have been presented candidly, adequately, and honestly.

Not so...

[Iscool]

That argument won't wash with me. I've posted here, many times, copious Biblical references to back up Catholic teachings. Most of the time, I've received dismissive responses such as, “Do you really expect me to look at a Catholic site?” Things like that...

Well then you didn't post copious Biblical references...You posted links to Catholic sites that after thousands of words maybe hit upon a scripture (or not) that was in question...That's not posting Biblical references...That's posting Catholic references...

[CynicalBear]

>>Christ saved her from sinning. Christ is her Saviour.<<

Nice try but a totally man made doctrine. “Blessed” does not equate to sinless by any stretch of the imagination. If it did every person who was blessed by God would be considered sinless.

[HossB86]

“As far as I have learned the Catholic Church does not define purgatory either, other than to claim it is purification of those who die with unrepented sins.”

What? So the Roman Catholic Church hasn’t said it’s a PLACE that you go?? That is defined. Not from Scripture either—the passage you quoted says nothing about having to go ANYWHERE.

“Purgatory” as a real place only exists in Westerns.

Hoss

[P-Marlowe]

Excellent post Dr. E. As an aside, I think the whole idea of praying to the saints rather than directly to the Father as commanded by Christ is blasphemous in that it seems that the Catholic attitude toasted God is that somehow God is just too busy to hear our prayers, or that if only a more holy person than ourselves could mediate between us and God that this would be more effective in getting our prayers heard than if we ask Jesus to be our mediator. The whole thing diminishes the Glory and power of God. Frankly I believe that it was designed to do just that. Catholic theology exalts man and debases God. That is the bottom line.

[P-Marlowe]

That means that she and Christ were both qualified to save people from their sins. Cough, cough.

I do believe that some of us may live to see the day that that position becomes official and infallible Catholic doctrine.

[BenKenobi]

Christ is sinless. He’s fully Man and fully God. How can he be sinless and yet the son of a sinful Mary?

Ball’s in your court.

Your issue with Tradition is sad, because Tradition came first, before the bible. Scripture and Tradition are authoritative.

[BenKenobi]

Good luck waiting for that.