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Because of the Protestant Reformers Beliefs On Mary
Why I Am a Catholic ^ | 12/16/10 | Frank Weathers

Posted on 12/17/2010 7:31:07 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; presently no screen name

Why? It’s not me who has the problem with latin.


1,121 posted on 12/20/2010 10:56:06 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: netmilsmom
Ignore whatever you want. God help those who ignore His teaching in Scripture.

"(Jesus Christ) being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when He had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high" -- Hebrews 1:3

"...when He had BY HIMSELF purged our sins..."

1,122 posted on 12/20/2010 10:58:01 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

When I asked you if there was a problem with the Latin phrase I post, you replied “Sure.”

If you meant something else, you should have written something else.


1,123 posted on 12/20/2010 11:00:28 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: netmilsmom
Perhaps you do not speak a second language.

Perhaps, I do. What does that have to do with being in America where English is the language? Or do Catholics want to change that also?

The nuance of that language, although the meaning may be close, the nuance can make it different, even clearer.

Oh gee, what do we have hear - looks like speaking down to me as if I didn't know. Another RCC trait and big gov't trait.

Therefore, if I write in Polish as well as English, it may have a fuller meaning to those who read both sets of words.

Ok now - we will start with the premise - the reader can't comprehend and needs guidance. Surely, the reader would not know enough to ask if he/she were interested. Premise #1, we start out with the reader is dumb and/or not as smart as the writer of the post. Is that part of the FR guidelines, also?

I was trying to kindly help you out with the rules of the Religion Forum.

OH! I see, I guess it is part of the guidelines. Did I ask you for them? Are you the moderator? YEP! Catholics coming to the rescue of the dumb Christians. Big gov't coming to the rescue once again. Press #1 for English. Vote for me for hope and change!

There is no need to insult me for it,

Since you brought it up - stating something that you don't agree is considered insulting to you? But you setting me straight with your opinion about another language being spoken here and the need for a second language for clarity is what?

but if it makes you feel better in this joyous season, then Merry Christmas!

It appears insulting makes your day and took the liberty to do so. Anyone with a different thought than yours, appears to need more instruction about languages. Along the same mindset of... if you don't agree with me, you didn't have enough catholic education.

All my days are merry because the JOY of The Lord is within and not by man speaking 'merry' to me.

Gasp! A conservative Christian not looking/bowing to man? What's this place coming to! 'Hopefully', we can have some 'change' here. Press 'C' for change.
1,124 posted on 12/20/2010 11:01:13 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I wasn’t “reading your mind.”

I was agreeing with you.

You couldn't have possibly agreed with me because I made no statement that I did, or did not, believe that people's minds could be changed.

My statement to you thus stands.

1,125 posted on 12/20/2010 11:04:52 AM PST by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What a joy you are to me! God Bless you and keep you now and through the new year.

Merry Christmas!


1,126 posted on 12/20/2010 11:06:05 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: presently no screen name; netmilsmom
All my days are merry because the JOY of The Lord is within and not by man speaking 'merry' to me.

Hard to believe.

1,127 posted on 12/20/2010 11:06:23 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: BenKenobi

That “proclamation by your pope” confirms that John Paul II taught that Mary should be “worshiped.”

And from that foul disease of a proposition, all papist idolatry flows.

There are only two classes of human beings in Roman Catholicism — the elevated “anointed” class made up of “another Christ” and a “co-Redeemer,” and all the rest of us peons “working” our way to heaven.

Just like any top-down tyranny or monarchical dictatorship.


1,128 posted on 12/20/2010 11:07:43 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HossB86; Dr. Eckleburg
He’s not attempting to read your mind; he’s making a basic statement. He said, “the minds of some posters will never be swayed...”

You left off the "I agree" part of the post in question.

I never stated that I did, or did not, believe opinions could be changed.

BIG difference.

It most certainly is.

1,129 posted on 12/20/2010 11:08:06 AM PST by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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To: presently no screen name

>>Oh gee, what do we have hear<<

I think you meant, “what do we have here”

A Blessed Christmas and a wonderful New Year to you, FRiend!
May you and yours be given all the kindness that your show to others.


1,130 posted on 12/20/2010 11:08:59 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: BenKenobi

Ben,

“Scripture traditionally records that this office is passed on from one officeholder to the next.”

Where in scripture???

“The fair analysis is that you interpret the evidence in a different fashion, not that the evidence is lacking.”

You can’t interpret something that doesn’t exist; that’s the Roman Catholic Church’s problem!

““So blessedness=sinlessness?”

Never said this was so. ‘All generations shall call you blessed’, is different.”

Really... let me remind you:

Post 1,091:
“As for Mary’s sinlessness, ‘all generations hereafter will call you blessed.’ That’s a pretty outstanding claim not else repeated in scripture.”

What’s the operative here? Seems like “will call you blessed.” So, if not that, what? Please clarify.

Anything on the apology?

Hoss


1,131 posted on 12/20/2010 11:09:31 AM PST by HossB86
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
There are only two classes of human beings in Roman Catholicism — the elevated “anointed” class made up of “another Christ” and a “co-Redeemer,” and all the rest of us peons “working” our way to heaven.

There are only two classes of human beings in the OPC - the "elect" and the "not elect." Anyone who is "not elect" -- whom some posters believe themselves able to discern -- is going to hell, predestined from all eternity.

1,132 posted on 12/20/2010 11:11:38 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank God for His merciful guidance

Amen! Never more thankful until I was out - and seeing from the outside what I was 'in'! Who The Son sets free, is free indeed. Thank You, Jesus!
1,133 posted on 12/20/2010 11:14:20 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: raygunfan

>>very nice....let’s see how the anti marian crowd twists those words of the very leaders they themselves credit with ‘restoring’ the ‘true’ faith....<<

There is one of the big differences between Catholics and Protestants, I think. All men can be incorrect in some of their beliefs, even “leaders”. Protestants see leaders as people, and fallible. Even Luther. ;)

Protestants don’t really have any “holy stuff” either. A building is a building, a cup is a cup. It becomes holy via the Lord’s presence.


1,134 posted on 12/20/2010 11:15:36 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: WrightWings

Actually, no. This is from post 1100, from you:

“I agree that the minds of some posters will never be swayed by Scripture, reason or logic.
Don’t attempt to read my mind, Dr. - it’s against the rules.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2644059/posts?page=1061#1061";

No “I agree” in there. You stated that she was trying to read you mind. That’s what I was referencing.

Hoss


1,135 posted on 12/20/2010 11:16:20 AM PST by HossB86
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To: BenKenobi; bkaycee

BK: “We as Catholics aren’t bound to accept any of your citation. We are, however bound to accept the proclamation from the Pope. So until you have Papal evidence to confirm your statement, you are wasting your time. Except of course, to preach to the choir.”

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Prayer of Pope Pius XII
In Honor of the Immaculate Conception

http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm

Prayer of Pope Pius XII

Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty, and impelled by the anxieties of the world, we cast ourselves into your arms, O Immaculate Mother of Jesus and our Mother, Mary, confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.

Though degraded by our faults and overwhelmed by infinite misery, we admire and praise the peerless richness of sublime gifts with which God has filled you, above every other mere creature, from the first moment of your conception until the day on which, after your assumption into heaven, He crowned you Queen of the Universe.

O crystal fountain of faith, bathe our minds with the eternal truths! O fragrant Lily of all holiness, captivate our hearts with your heavenly perfume! O Conqueress of evil and death, inspire in us a deep horror of sin, which makes the soul detestable to God and a slave of hell!

O well-beloved of God, hear the ardent cry which rises up from every heart. Bend tenderly over our aching wounds. Convert the wicked, dry the tears of the afflicted and oppressed, comfort the poor and humble, quench hatreds, sweeten harshness, safeguard the flower of purity in youth, protect the holy Church, make all men feel the attraction of Christian goodness. In your name, resounding harmoniously in heaven, may they recognize that they are brothers, and that the nations are members of one family, upon which may there shine forth the sun of a universal and sincere peace.

Receive, O most sweet Mother, our humble supplications, and above all obtain for us that, one day, happy with you, we may repeat before your throne that hymn which today is sung on earth around your altars: You are all-beautiful, O Mary! You are the glory, you are the joy, you are the honor of our people! Amen.


1,136 posted on 12/20/2010 11:17:00 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: netmilsmom; Dr. Eckleburg

Doc, my sincere apologies. “She” and “her” from now on! :D

Thanks, Netmilsmom


1,137 posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:04 AM PST by HossB86
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To: WrightWings; presently no screen name; boatbums; metmom
You couldn't have possibly agreed with me because I made no statement that I did, or did not, believe that people's minds could be changed.

Wow. Thank God for the evidence of the written word...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2644059/posts?page=1070#1070

To: Natural Law

NL: "Do you seriously believe that the rules apply and are applied equally to all?"

WRIGHTWINGS: As much as I believe that anybody on these threads is going to be able to change anyone's mind.

1,070 posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:19:25 PM by WrightWings

Thus we're left with one of two possible meanings to your post since you drew parity between Natural Law's comment and your own...

1) You seriously believe the rules DO apply and ARE applied equally to all, and therefore you DO believe peoples' minds on these threads CAN be changed.

2) You seriously do NOT believe the rules apply NOR are applied equally to all, and therefore you do NOT believe peoples' minds on these threads can be changed.

Which is it?

1,138 posted on 12/20/2010 11:20:18 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

Is your non-FR name “Judith Anne?”


1,139 posted on 12/20/2010 11:22:24 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alex Murphy

>>If Jesus emerged from a sealed tomb, and passed through closed doors, surely he could pass through Mary’s womb without breaking her hymen and causing her pain.<<

Ok, now these guys are just getting stupid. Yes, I mean stupid. The above quote is what is known as idle speculation, and with no real purpose, other than to try to prop up some theory they may have. A theory, I might add, that is irrelevant to Jesus saving grace.


1,140 posted on 12/20/2010 11:23:34 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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