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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Politicalmom

It does boggle the mind.


781 posted on 12/06/2010 7:06:07 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice

I know God said he was dead and He buried him although we know he was in perfect health. But someone mentioned Moses along with Elijah awhile back and I forgot what the guy said about Moses! He gave some interesting thoughts about it. Just thought you may have heard anything.


782 posted on 12/06/2010 7:06:14 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: stfassisi
Even Marx talked about the "welfare of the masses." It is in the details that one's true intention is made clear. Here's Ratzpinger's GLOBAL AUTHORITY ENCYCLICAL

And here is paragraph 67...

"67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect[146] and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity. To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good[147], and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights[148]. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization[149]. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations."

If this weren't written by a Roman Catholic priest, I doubt you would have even one Roman Catholic "conservative" agreeing with it. It is pure communistic, anti-free market, anti-capitalism.

Ratzinger wants this "global authority" to control the United States' policies on polities, immigration, food distribution, finance, health, taxation, property rights and justice systems. "Conservatives" should be outraged at this blatant power grab.

783 posted on 12/06/2010 7:09:08 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Ann Archy
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YET MORE!
BRAZENLY FALSE
ABSURDITIES
from the
Vatican Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling
!!!!CONTROL!!!!
Phreaque clique
Departmentt.

784 posted on 12/06/2010 7:11:15 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: starlifter; RnMomof7; metmom; presently no screen name; 1000 silverlings
You are no doubt a fine imam (imama?) at your madrasa.

Wow. Do you even know the rules for this forum? You appear to be breaking them left and right (mostly left.).

785 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:14 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Given that

you seem to have great difficulty in reading the simple assertions I’ve already posted on that matter

e.g.

stating that I’m a

TRINITARIAN PENTECOSTAL DISPY

I see no rational reason for responding further to your cheekiness.


786 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:28 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 1000 silverlings

INDEED.

Thx.


787 posted on 12/06/2010 7:16:02 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: lastchance
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter”

And you think that the Apostles who spoke and wrote have fork tongues since they are two vastly opposing views.

I would say that is a mighty big stretch.
788 posted on 12/06/2010 7:18:57 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Here's a good one...

AN EVANGELICAL INTRODUCTION TO CHURCH HISTORY

Irenaeus did not believe in the Perpetual virginity of Mary, as demonstrated in Against Heresies, 3:21:10 and 3:22:4.

Tertullian, died around 220 AD – Carthage, North Africa, wrote five books against Marcion and other works against Gnostics and other heresies.

Tertullian understood that Mary and Joseph had a normal sexual relationship within marriage after Jesus was born and so the doctrine of the virgin birth of Christ is biblical and historical, but the “brothers and sisters of the Lord” are truly the children of Mary of Joseph. (see “On the Flesh of Christ”, chapter 23; On Monogamy, 8; and Against Marcion, 4:19)...

Origen (254 AD), Basil (379 AD), and Chrysostom (407 AD) all denied that Mary was sinless.

Rome just makes things up.

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Not only does the Vatican in Rome just make things up, the Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling

MAKES THINGS UP
BADLY,
IRRATIONALLY,
UNHISTORICALLY,
UNBIBLICALLY,
OUTRAGEOUSLY!

And then the !!!!CONTROL!!!! phreaque RC's hereon get all huffy that we aren't stupid enough to respect their dogma, rituals, idolatries, blasphemies, heresies from hell!

Sheesh.

789 posted on 12/06/2010 7:21:11 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 1000 silverlings

This is why non Catholics find Catholic beliefs so disturbing. Scripture is twisted and mangled and the result is to take away His glory from God, and give it to another.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED! THX.


790 posted on 12/06/2010 7:22:28 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: presently no screen name

The Transfiguration where Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus Christ is why the question of Moses comes up. It’s very interesting and I would love to hear a conversation about this. I don’t know, the Bible clearly says he died. And that Enoch and Elijah have not. I wonder about the 2 witnesses in Revelation. It would just seem that Moses would be one of them. It’s a great topic of information to me, too. Perhaps someone who is a more knowledgeable than me can give us some info on it!


791 posted on 12/06/2010 7:22:40 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Pyro7480; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
. . . . not necessarily the truth.

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As though the persistently Rabidly Wrong RC's hereon would recognize, know &/or understand the truth if it bit them in their white hankys.
792 posted on 12/06/2010 7:26:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice

The man was very educated in Jewish roots and Christianity. It was his thoughts - and all I remember are his last words....’something to think about’ LOL!


793 posted on 12/06/2010 7:27:09 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Quix

. . . not necessarily the truth

And that came from Post #666! LOL!!


794 posted on 12/06/2010 7:29:37 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: maryz; Colonel_Flagg; Quix; metmom; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; 1000 silverlings
Where do you get the idea that "sinless" equals "divine"? Adam and Eve were created sinless and remained so until the Fall -- does this mean they were equal to God until then and only then became human?

You've just proven Col._Flagg's point. Adam and Eve DID sin, therefore they were not born without a sin nature. And they eventually acted according to that nature.

Just like Mary and the rest of humanity are born with a sin nature and succumb to that nature by sinning.

Further, it is basic Christianity 101 that there has only been one person born without a sin nature and who committed no sins -- Jesus Christ.

" For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." -- 2 Corinthians 5:21

Where does the word of God say that about Mary? Rome turns a simple Jewish girl who was blessed by God to carry the Christ child to term into a brazen, superstitious, anti-Scriptural, truth-denying blasphemy.

Repent of it.

795 posted on 12/06/2010 7:30:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

EXCELLENT POST.

Of course, the rabid supporters of dogma from hell will trot out their rationalizations soon enough. LOL.

Sigh.


796 posted on 12/06/2010 7:30:42 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Sounds like

Basil of Caesarea

had had his fill of White Hanky’d theology even prior to the forming of the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church.


797 posted on 12/06/2010 7:32:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: cva66snipe

EXCELLENT POINTS well made.

Thx.

Reminds me of

ETERNITY IN THEIR HEARTS.

Have you read it?


798 posted on 12/06/2010 7:34:08 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 1000 silverlings

“twisted”

is toooooooooooo charitable.


799 posted on 12/06/2010 7:34:33 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

There it is! Thanks for pointing it out, Quix

DrE - I was looking for it. I started reading it earlier but didn’t complete it. EXCELLENT!! Thank you!


800 posted on 12/06/2010 7:35:19 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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