Was Mary Sinless?

The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) is a towering intellect who is a world respected theologian.

lol. Rome bizarrely chose as its leader an ex-Hitler Youth who wrote the most communistic drivel since the Communist Manifesto.

I paid $7 for Ratzinger's recent "global authority" encyclical and it is sooo far beyond socialism as to be pure communism.

Do yourself a favor and buy a copy, read it and get back to us.

Newman did his best to subvert the church of England. He worshiped relics and then, POOF! He became one...

JOHN NEWMAN'S BODY MISSING

Pacelli was in bed with the Nazis. Without his acquiescence to the Enabling Act of 1933, Hitler would not have been given absolute power.

You idolize the wrong end of creation.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

You are so wrong.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

God's glory, His Holy Spirit rested on the Ark, it never filled it. After Pentecost, His Holy Spirit, rests inside the other tabernacles -- us, and none of us are the Ark. Christ is the Ark, and even debating that He isn't is a disturbing belief that is unChristian and unbiblical

AMEN!

[Judith Anne]

Pacelli was in bed with the Nazis. Without his acquiescence to the Enabling Act of 1933, Hitler would not have been given absolute power.

Do you have a source for that opinion? Because I don't find it validated online.

[starlifter]

Interesting....

Waaaaaaaay back in post #8, RnMomof7 posted:
“so if she every talked back to her mother, she would be an adulterer and murder and a thief.. just as we all are..”

In short, she said without equivocation that Mary had murdered. This is a fascinating incite on early church history, so I enquired who she murdered. RnMomof7 would not answer directly, instead weakly attributing this claim to James.

I searched James and did not any reference to Mary's murderous past, but I did reflect on the fourth chapter.

I also am reminded of Exodus 20:16.

[shurwouldluv_a_smallergov]

A question regarding “all have sinned”...

Do babies sin?

[Politicalmom]

Learn how to read. That’s not what that said.

[Vegasrugrat]

Babies are sinners, from the moment they’re alive. Babies are sinners because they’re our babies, and we’re sinners.

“Surely I have been a sinner from birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5).

[Religion Moderator]

Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[starlifter]

What is the antecedent?

[presently no screen name]

I also am reminded of Exodus 20:16.....You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

Good and now it needs to be applied.

Do you not know that if we are guilty of ONE sin we are guilty of ALL under the law? Isn't that what RnM was saying?

[starlifter]

And so the question remains, who did Mary murder...and who did you murder?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Waaaaaaaay back in post #8, RnMomof7 posted: “so if she every talked back to her mother, she would be an adulterer and murder and a thief.. just as we all are..”

In short, she said without equivocation that Mary had murdered. This is a fascinating incite on early church history, so I enquired who she murdered. RnMomof7 would not answer directly, instead weakly attributing this claim to James.

I'm sorry you do not appear to understand RnMomof7's accurate post. Here it is for discussion...

"ANN ARCHY: WHAT sins did she commit?? LIES?? CHEATING??? CURSING?? MURDER??? Please tell me what sins she committed.....please tell us all..yeah.....SO MANY you can't name them, I guess. Yeah...MAry was a HUGE sinner!

RNMOMOF7: The bible says if you break ONE of the commandments you have broken them all (Jam 2:10)... so if she every talked back to her mother, she would be an adulterer and murder and a thief.. just as we all are..

My question was does the state of HER soul affect our salvation??

8 posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:26:15 PM by RnMomof7

RnMomof7 is correct. All men are fallen; all men are sinners. And as James teaches us, if we break a single commandment, it is the same as if we break every commandment.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with James. Would it help if I printed James 2:10-11 for you? Here it is...

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." -- James 2:10-11

Scripture tells us no man is sinless but Christ. Therefore, all sins are an abomination to the perfect Lord and all men are equally fallen.

Thus, as far as breaking God's commandments goes, the pederast priest who rapes children under his care is no better and no worse than the rest of us sinners.

The difference is whether or not he has been given repentance to acknowledging the truth about himself and Christ's sacrifice on his behalf.

[roamer_1]

The Ark never contained God in the first place. The Ark was the manifestation of God's physical presence on earth and later, that was Jesus, the Word made flesh, not Mary.

Yes, but the Ark contained the written word that Moses received from God and some of the manna. Mary bore THE WORD and the Bread that came down from Heaven. You see the typology now?

• It is Christ who is the most precious object, and it is He that sits in the Holy of Holies...
• It is Christ who was sprinkled with blood for our sins...
• It is Christ who is the "containment" of the Torah and the manna of heaven, and it is He who maintains (protects) the commandments of God...
• It is Christ who is imbued with the power of God, and who is the mercy seat...
• It is Christ who goes forth ahead of Israel in battle, as in days of old...
• It is Christ who is the constant promise, and it is Christ whom Aaron will serve forever...

~*not* Mary~

Can't you see how the Roman typology is so typically short-sighted, shallow and blasphemous?

The Ark of God's Covenant(s) is Yeshua the Messiah, and it has always been so.

Mariology is like the kid who receives a wonderful gift, but casts it aside to play with the box it came in.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

lol. Keep looking.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Do your own research. Start by reading the Bible on your own, praying for guidance from the Holy Spirit.

[starlifter]

And again I ask, who did Mary murder? Who did you murder?

[shurwouldluv_a_smallergov]

I would agree that we inherit “original sin” as part of our fallen human nature, but that is not something we do ourselves. Can a baby commit an actual sin? Can a baby break one of the ten commandments?

[Judith Anne]

I have, and I’ve looked far enough that if there were any truth to your statement, it would be clear.

If you have found some allegation on some obscure website, haul it out here so we can all take a look. Otherwise, I consider the statement to be false.

[starlifter]

Cutting one’s hair is an abomination:
“Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.” (Leviticus 19:27)

So, going to the barber and kiddy-diddling (your reference to pederasts) are equal in the eyes of the Lord? I think not.