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Good on ya.
Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
As I said before, if someone bowed down before me, lit candles and offered me a pizza, I'd tell them to stop.
I'd take the pizza, of course.
> “Well, to be honest, I’ve not heard that much of Joyce Meyer’s program and do not know her dogma...”
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Joyce is a part of the “Faith” movement, with which I mostly agree.
And yes, we all do have faults :o)
1. in God’s presence, sin cannot stay, it is destroyed.
2. Jesus in the womb was still Jesus Christ, Lord and God.
3. To protect the bearer of God, she had to be made filled with grace and she had to be made free of sin — for her to be able to bear the Lord
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In light of statement number one, statement number three is meaningless.
Protect Him how? Why? Being God, what is He being protected FROM?
And why do you assume this?
Sorry, you set of my *nonsense* meter.
Considering how too many Catholics on these threads have spoken and had posts deleted, are you saying that you also thought they spoke for all Catholics?
Assuming that one person speaking is speaking for the group is naive and foolish beyond measure. I am very skeptical of that claim as it is not one that any reasonably intelligent reasoning adult would normally make.
It is not way of the master and I am not hawking anything...just trying to truly help people...dingy. It is the simple Be still exercise as referenced in the Bible...be still and know that I am God...obviously that is being still in the mind. What is wrong with you?
Well said!
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
I wrote that you know nothing of the Catholic faith because you have demonstrated such lack of knowledge. I was not reading your mind. To do so I would have had to write “You think you know the Catholic faith.”
You keep using non Catholic terms to define what Catholics teach. I’ll assume you believe in forensic Justification. If not please correct me. This is not Catholic teaching.
But I will end here since no appeal to factual Catholic teaching attracts your notice. I will admit I thought you were using the term another Christ to mean somehow that a Priest is equal to Christ. He is not, he is through the grace of ordination the person whom Christ acts through in the administration of the sacraments. He stands in place of Christ. But I do see you used the term correctly and I apologize for my misassumption.
“Protect Him how? Why? Being God, what is He being protected FROM?”
Spiritual blindness manifest. You got the meaning of what Cronos posted EXACTLY backwards. Try re reading what was written, absent the filter of what you THINK was written. Look at the words. Sound them out. Then try again.
“Bowing down, lighting candles, and praying to someone has enough elements of worship for it to be legitimately called that.”
Nope. You can call it whatever you want, but it is legitimately called veneration. That you want to rework the meaning to fit your bigotry isn’t a surprise, but it isn’t honest either.
“What is the good news Christ preached?”
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion even when it is wrong.
But since it is, you can expect it to be challenged.
But Dr. E responds like Paul.....
Philippians 1:15-17 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.
All Cronos’ attempts to vilify the OPC just give it more publicity and others more opportunity to share what they believe.
Thanks, Cronos.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
Westburro doesn't even indicate Baptists at all. The portrayal of that group as even Baptist is beneath any FReeper with more than two brain cells to communicate with each other.
It is flame baiting pure and simple.
If you consider that valid then the pope/Nazi link is.
Well said.
Tell me what happens to a Catholic who skips mass for no good reason and dies without going to confession.
With respect I would have no idea as I am not God. But if they die with mortal sin on their soul they are in risk of going to hell. If they die with venial sin on their soul they will undergo the purification of purgatory. I assume that if upon the knowledge they are at death’s door they make a full contrite repentence for their sins to God they will be forgiven. Once forgiven of their sins they need not fear hell. But it would be wrong for any Christian to presume they will get a last minute chance to be God’s mercy. So we should always be in readiness to meet our maker.
I make it a point to let people know that Baptist is not a trademarked term and the hooligans from Westboro are not affliated with The SBC or other “official” Baptist church.
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Good on ya.
Grant Lord, That our eyes may be fully opened so we may submit to you in full faith as did your Holy Mother.
There are people who say no to pizza? Now that’s heresy.
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