Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
<<<<<< Luther bitterly lamented this result in his later years>>>>>
Catholics can not get over their hatred of this godly man ..maybe a look into their own souls might reveal the root of that sin that God calls murder (Matt 5:22)
In the last days before his death Luther had been the cheerful man his friends knew and loved. He had successfully completed a difficult mission: a trip from Wittenberg to Eisleben to mediate in a protracted quarrel between the two counts of Mansfeld, the brothers Gebhard and Albert. Hours had been spent sitting between the parties, listening to the clever reasoning of administrative lawyers—a breed he had despised ever since his early days as a law student in Erfurt. After two tough weeks of negotiation, the parties had narrowed their differences and a reconciliation had finally—though only temporarily—been achieved. So there was reason to be cheerful. Luther had suspected that he would die in Eisleben, the place of his birth. But this did not worry him, although he was quite sure he had little time left: “When I get home to Wittenberg again, I will lie down in my coffin and give the worms a fat doctor to feast on.” By highlighting the skeleton within the human body, late medieval art had urgently reminded everyone that health, beauty, and wealth were only a few breaths away from the Dance of Death. The “fat doctor” was well aware of this, not as a moralistic horror story, but as a reality of life poised on the brink of eternity. [Source: Heiko Oberman, Luther: Man Between God and the Devil (New York: Doubleday, 1982), 305].
Philip Melanchthon recorded this final prayer uttered by Luther:
“My Heavenly Father, eternal Compassionate God, you have revealed to me your beloved Son our LORD Jesus Christ whom I have known, of whom I have acquaintance, whom I love, and whom I honor as my beloved Savior and Redeemer, whom the Godless persecute, dissipate, and reproach. Take my Soul to you. This he said three times: ‘Into your hands I commend my Spirit, you have redeemed me God of truth. And God so loved the world…”
I linked the source in post 1900, attributed it in the post you are referring to AND the RM said to drop the issue.
which is nothing.
Prior to the Sixteenth Century, what Christian ever questioned teaching according to history?
The Council of Toulouse, 1229 AD Cannon 14
Prohibts laymen from owning any books of the Old or New Testament
That’s right the Catholic Church prohibited and killed people just for having copies of the Bible .
Not to mention that they kept the masses of people illiterate (unlike the Jews who taught their own to read)
There is a big REASON for this and it has EVERYTHING to do with staying in power.
After the invention of the printing press things got out .. maybe that’s why they NEEDED their inquisition.
I hope you have your hazmat suit on.
Is this St,]. Groundhogs Day? This "crepe" was refuted multiple times before. I guess sooner or later some moron will forget and post it yet again. Constantine was never a Pontiff and he didn't incorporate the Church. He simply legalized and endorsed it.
I've sen this dog and pony show before. An "impartial" site that contains anti-Catholic information.
Are you saying that there are no Scriptures that show Mary had other children?
Are you, also, agreeing with the Vatican teaching she was born without original sin?
That pagan ordered the murder of many Christians just because they would not follow his changing the day of worship from the Sabbath.
INDEED.
Roman Pontiff did not attend the Council of Nicea in Turkey. It was convoked by the Emperor Constantine who was building his new capital in Turkey.
Who by the way was a pagan.
No. Emperor Constantine was baptized on his deathbed and his mother, St. Helena, was a pious Christian.
He was a vehement anti-semite who ordered the rejection of YHvH's Passover and Sabbat worship as commanded by Holy Scripture. He as a pagan ordered the creation of the pagan feast of Easter and pagan Sunday worship.
Easter had alway been celebrated. The issue was whether to celebrate only on Sunday, or according to the lunar calendar where the day of the week changes from year to year. Sunday had long been the regular day of worship for Christians. Constantine convoked council in hopes of preventing war between Church factions. He was not yet fully a member of the Church and did not take part in the theological discussions.
Prior to 1600 and after 325CE all who questioned the Roman "church" were murdered by the Roman "church"
No. The Church has always encouraged vigorous debate following St. Paul's direction that Christians must "give reason for what you believe." The Catholic Church invented the university system and the accompanying academic freedom. However, prior the the Protestant/Enlightenment rejection of historical proof and linear logic, there was a difference in debate. Pursuit of truth was considered necessary and the debater was required to provide proofs of his position. The idea that "freedom of speech" includes the right of willful lying is a modern falsehood. The Catholic belief is that error has no rights.
is not and was not
remotely
“beyond question.”
Wise.
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That has to be the sickest cop-out reply I’ve ever read here.
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Everything not specifically of Christ inevitably becomes the venue of Satan.
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You haven't covered it at all...There is nothing in the scripture that indicates Apostolic succession nor an infallible Catholic religion...
And the fact that your religion has foisted this anti-biblical fable on you guys for so long has nothing to do with your claim that you have unwritten Apostolic tradition straight from the Apostles' mouths...
C'mon, let's see the unwritten Apostolic traditions that you guys have that were left out of the scriptures...The OTHER things that Jesus taught that John didn't write about...Let's hear it...
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