Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
metmom wrote:
“It all depends on how accurate you think the Bible is.”
I think it is accurate beyond our imagination, beyond our ability to grasp fully.
I will, respectfully, disagree with your interjected “Balderdash” and what follows it. What is necessary for our salvation is just what you say, “plain, simple, obvious.” It is accessible and understandable to a child, as the Bible makes clear in more than one place. But there are other things of which God’s Word speaks that we still struggle with, as did those who went before us. This, that you would like to make so simple, is one of them. But, rejoice, neither your nor my salvation depends on knowing the answer. That is the nature of adiaphora.
As a wise man once said to me, “God’s Word is shallow enough for a child to wade in safely, and yet deep enough to drown the wisest of men.”
Lots of AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANS have disagreed throughout history.
Scripture disagrees.
INDEED.
Thanks for your considered and thoughtful exhortation.
Will prayerfully ponder it some more.
I don’t believe I’ve been pinging you much to much of anything.
Looks like donkeys in prison clothes.
Maybe the Vatican vulcanized ‘Bible’ is written in selective disappearing ink where those verses are concerned . . . and a lot of others.
I wrote: "For 1500 years, the Catholic Church authenticated its teaching by reference to its scripture in the context of history. No Christian ever thought to question this basic understanding of reality."
Prior to the Sixteenth Century, what Christian ever questioned teaching according to history?
1. Stop telling jokes which prompt his horse laugh.
2. Newbies don’t make the rules.
3. The thin skinned don’t belong on an open forum.
Now now.
Asking for the voice of logic and sanity to reign in rabid clique RC posting is asking for a bit much ain’t it?
Goodness. They’d lose their distinctiveness.
AGREED:
If God chose not to make this clear either way, then that is our confession. It is unclear, therefore believe as you will so long as you believe rightly all that the Scriptures do teach about the Christ. This, as you are manifestly sensitive to, is one of Rome’s big problems. They insist on taking things that may or may not be true - and even build wholly ungrounded and doubtful (if not harmful!) doctrine on top of such things - and insist on pain of damnation, that one must believe them to be true. I will go you one better, this is not merely irresponsible and deceptive, it is the spirit of antichrist.
Sound scriptural, Christian doctrine glorifies Christ and the truth that has been revealed in and through Him.
“God’s Word is shallow enough for a child to wade in safely, and yet deep enough to drown the wisest of men.”
GREAT LINE.
That would fit . . . a prison of willful blindness seems to have taken deep root in the Vatican long ago.
I’ll leave that to my betters to answer. I don’t enjoy dredging through all that ancient muck amidst my other priorities.
There’s certainly more than one—within and without the Vatican umbrella! LOL.
lol! Love that one! Another one you need is a monkey, picking nits..I don’t know why, it just seems like a good one for so many posts! :)
..suddenly I’m feeling much stronger, OR! :)
True. May try and find one.
“”All of it glorifies Him. All of it points to Him””
...and so does the typology of Mary point to Him and you see the fullness of the Holy family,dear friend.In fact, everything about Our Blessed Mother glorifies her Son.
Ignorance of Mary is ignorance of Christ ,if you really think deeply enough you cannot separate them.
As GK Chesterton once said...
“When I was a boy a more Puritan generation objected to a statue upon my parish church representing the Virgin and Child. After much controversy, they compromised by taking away the Child. One would think that this was even more corrupted with Mariolatry, unless the mother was counted less dangerous when deprived of a sort of weapon. But the practical difficulty is also a parable. You cannot chip away the statue of a mother from all round that of a newborn child. You cannot suspend the new-born child in mid-air; indeed you cannot really have a statue of a newborn child at all. Similarly, you cannot suspend the idea of a newborn child in the void or think of him without thinking of his mother. You cannot visit the child without visiting the mother, you cannot in common human life approach the child except through the mother. If we are to think of Christ in this aspect at all, the other idea follows I as it is followed in history. We must either leave Christ out of Christmas, or Christmas out of Christ, or we must admit, if only as we admit it in an old picture, that those holy heads are too near together for the haloes not to mingle and cross. -GK Chesterton
I wish you a Blessed evening!
Prior to the Sixteenth Century, what Christian ever questioned teaching according to history?
It was created out of whole cloth at Nicea Who by the way was a pagan. He was a vehement anti-semite who ordered He as a pagan ordered the creation of the Prior to 1600 and after 325CE all who questioned Prior to the council of Nicea there is no
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
corporation called the Roman catholic church.
by the Roman Pontiff Constantine.
the rejection of YHvH's Passover and Sabbat worship
as commanded by Holy Scripture.
pagan feast of Easter and pagan Sunday worship.
the Roman "church" were murdered by the Roman "church"
And the University Of Dayton is..............impartial?
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