Posted on 09/18/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by markomalley
Congratulations. The Protestant work ethic is alive and well in you.
What Jesus said, According to Matthew was,
“this (estin) the body of me......this for (estin) the blood of me” (Matt. 26:26-28) and Bible translations and scholars such as
A New Translation of the Bible by James Moffatt (1948), The Authentic New Testament by Hugh J. Schonfield(1956), The New Testament-A Translation by William Barclay(1968)
translate Matthew 26:26, (estin) as “means” or “signifies” by paying attention to the context.
“The same once-and-for-all sacrifice is re-presented in the Mass. It’s called the Eucharist.”
If Catholics need a sacrifice to be offered or presented and re-presented over and over again then perhaps their sins have not been forgiven since Paul said that when sins are forgiven there is no longer an offering for sin. (Heb. 10:28)
Note that well....”Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.”
So if Catholics feel the need to have Christ sacrifice offered, presented, re-presented, again and again that is for them to consider whether their sins have really been forgiven or not.
I'll accept Christ's sacrifice that he offered for sins perpetually. (Heb. 10:12-14)
Prosperity is not a good
"Tangible good" is not "prosperity" in goods. Prosperity is peace of mind, mental well-being, confidence in the future, certainty of faith. And all those blessings are tangible.
Obviously Rome denies these gifts to its members because Rome wants to keep them uncertain and fearful. Pitiful.
You are a Protestant. Therefore you read one thing and think another, and believe the liars that lead you so much you even think your quotes support your delusions.
Well, we know that Roman Catholics think Paul is "loony" and "deluded." But we'll follow his Scriptural teaching all the way home.
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." -- Philippians 4:4-7"Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.
Christians can only wonder why Rome preaches another gospel of fear and unfulfilled promises of Christ.
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I am the one who posted that I thought St. Paul was loony, I am not all Catholics. I do not recall that the rest of the Catholics came to my defense, rather they all pointed out positive things about the epistles of St. Paul.
The fact that you have twisted my words and tried to make them the words of all Catholics is a good indication of the quality of theological argument that you are able to muster. Further, nothing you have posted has changed my mind Rather, looking at the behavior of disciples of St. Paul in the OPC has made me ever more attached to the Gospels and the very words of Christ therein recorded.
Stop making the thread about individual posters, how many times do you need to be told? How hard is it to follow a few posting rules?
Another very bizarre statement. Pathetic.
“Out of the abundance of the mouth the heart speaks”.
Yes, this is true.
That is why I am often amazed at what abundance of the heart is “mouthed” on the religion forum.
You know, RnMom, it’s quite pointless for me to continue with this. You see it your way, and I see it quite differently. I still believe that your interpretation of Catholic life as it is being lived out daily (by practicing, sincere Catholics)is a one-dimensional view, a miniscule portion of the Catholic people at large.
There’s a Catholic world out there that I would guess you haven’t seen.
Would that things were such that I could invite you to my parish. And the parishes adjacent to it. I think you might be quite surprised. You have mentioned that you have been away from the Catholic Church for a long time. That makes a difference.
SO this is where I get off the bus, because I don’t think it’s useful for me to keep repeating—to your repeatings.
May the Lord richly bless you...day by day.
Wow, another RF mod! Wonderful!
Discuss the issues all you want, don’t take it personal
LOL!
Why must you constantly do battle with a flimsey strawman, rather than addressing what I wrote in my post?
I said nothing about a “feeling,” that is where your Godless unbelieving mind has taken you.
You paganism requires a pagan ‘priest,’ and that ‘priest’ has to have powers created by the men that created the belief. That is Papism.
God’s word says plainly that Christ’s presence here in this age is his spirit. That is not a ‘feeling,’ he speaks to his own. If he speaks not to you, then you are obviously not his.
Please do not diminish my Lord to a ‘feeling.’
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Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
“Well, we know that Roman Catholics think Paul is “loony” and “deluded”. But we’ll follow his Scriptural teaching all the way home home.”
Interestingly, Pope Benedict has just written a treatise on the Epistles of (St.) Paul..Beautifully written.
“Rome wants to keep them uncertain and fearful”
“...Rome preaches another gospel of fear and unfulfilled promises of Christ.”
Now that’s just not true.
Now that’s just not true.
Now that’s just not true.
Why is it that I’m NOT quaking in my boots and cringing in the corner and biting my fingernails and trembling in fear of the Church? (which you call “Rome”) I am part of the Mystical Body of Christ, His Church, so there is no reason for me to fear.
PRAYER FROM THE CATHEDRAL OF CHARTRES
Lord, in the quiet of this morning hour
I come to You for peace, for wisdom, power
To see the world today with love-filled eyes
To be patient, understanding, gentle, wise
To see beyond what seems to be and know
Your Children as You know them..and so
Naught but the good in everyone behold.
Make deaf my ears to slander that is told
Silence my tongue to all that is unkind
Let none but thoughts that bless dwell in my mind
Let me so kindly be, so full of cheer
That all I meet may feel Your presence near
Oh, fill me with Your beauty, this I pray
Let me reveal You, Lord, throughout the day.
1Peter 2:10
Proverbs 17:22
Very true!
The posts of most of the Catholics here are full of formulas to be saved, and no formula is given in God's word except that we must fully believe on him who was sent by the Father.
You can read the chilling fear in their every post, as the redescribe the pagan machinations that they follow blindly in their fruitless quest for their unrevealed security.
This is why I spend so little time on the Religion forum lately. It is disheartening to see them thrash in angry fright at the revelation of the word of God. Even Buddists have more peace than Catholics.
But nothing at all like any of the Christians of God's inerrant word!
You can read the chilling fear in their every post, as the redescribe the pagan machinations that they follow blindly in their fruitless quest for their unrevealed security.
How about a few specific examples of the formulas and chilling fear in every post?
I wouldn’t take their rants to seriously. After all, they HATE the Epistle of James.
Just re-read this thread!
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Oh wait: 1 = Amazing Start
How formulaic of me!!!
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