Posted on 09/18/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by markomalley
Christ is spiritually present in the Lord's Supper. The bread and wine do not change form which is a pagan superstition leading to veneration of the material world. It's no coincidence that the church which believes in this pathetic alchemy also believes in the magic of rituals and relics and holy water.
Rome is mired in the carnal while Christ is spiritually-discerned. Roman Catholics wrongly believe we cannot experience Christ unless we in ingest Him with our physical mouth. What anti-Scriptural lunacy.
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." -- Luke 22:19-20"And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Paul understood what Christ meant. Here he teaches others...
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come." -- 1 Corinthians 11:23-26"For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
Get that? We "show the Lord's death." We remember His sacrifice. We share in His suffering. We rejoice in His triumph over death for our sake.
We are not cannibals. We do not digest Him. We receive Him spiritually.
And that is enough for Christians. Rome's hunger for sacrilege and superstition is insatiable.
I don’t know how he could have made it any clearer.
Because most Catholics do not have the Spirit, they do not understand this, in the same way that the disciples that said “this is an hard saying” did not and could not understand. It just was not given to them of the Father to understand it. But eleven of the twelve understood it.
AMEN.
Without ears to hear or eyes to see it doesn't much matter how clear it is. They still will miss it.
"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word." -- John 8:43
Of course we do. Christ is really present spiritually. That's what the Bible tells us. Pray for discernment.
Ratcheting up the rhetoric pretty high tonight. Whats the matter, Catholics aren't responding to your usual slurs and accusations?
“Only satanists offer human sacrifice on altars.”
Please clarify this statement.
Are you specifically comparing the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to satanist worship?
If so, I can’t believe what I’m reading.
For me, as a practicing Catholic, that would be too far over the top.
The strange thing is that out of the top 10 per capita incomes only 3 are majority Protestant.
1) Qatar - Islam
2) Luxembourg - Catholic
3) Norway - Lutheran
4) Singapore - Buddhist
5) Brunei - Islam
6) US - Protestant plurality, religion has more than 50%.
7)Switzerland - Catholic (too bad that Calvin thing didn't catch on better, huh?)
8) Hong Kong - Buddhist
9) Netherlands - Catholic
10)Ireland - Catholic.
There are only 10 of the top 50 that are majority Protestant and 2 of those have a minimal majority.....kind of blows a hole in her assertion doesn't it. Perhaps her world view is limited to northern European countries.
Interestingly enough, I also came to know the mercy of God and was brought to new life in Christ Jesus——when I became a Catholic.
It’s would be unfortunate for anyone to assume that their own personal “Road to Damascus” is more authentic or more spiritually pure and correct than that of the Christian next to him.
It’s wrong to think that Catholics cannot know that they are sinners in need of redemption.
It’s erroneous to think -—or to assume-—that Catholics don’t know and love Sacred Scripture. There are plenty who certainly do.
My life, my prayers, my all are in His hands and have been now for over 60 decades.
“God indeed is my savior; I am confident and unafraid. My strength and my courage is the Lord, and He is my savior.”
Isaiah 12:2
It certainly muddles the understanding of the Scriptures.
Secondary to the glory of our salvation, true Christianity brings about tangible good in this life (mental well-being, spiritual strength, compassion, generosity, cheerfulness) in that a hundred Christians produce more good fruit than one Christian and a thousand Christians more than 10.
Do Christians experience set-backs, pain, illness, uncertainty, disappointments and hardships? Certainly. But with Christ "all things" can be overcome because "all things work for the good of those who love God who are the called according to His purpose."
"For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God." -- 2 Corinthians 3:15
Meanwhile, predominantly Roman Catholic countries do not produce this increase in good fruit.
"Material prosperity" does not "damage my (or anyone's) chances for salvation." Money is not the root of all evil; the "love of money" is the root of all evil.
But on the outside chance that money actually impedes salvation, Rome is in more trouble than any of us.
Should Roman Catholics expect a rebate in the mail anytime soon?
> “Meanwhile, predominantly Roman Catholic countries do not produce this increase in good fruit.”
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Exactly, they’re just like all the other pagan, idolatrous hell holes that make up most of this world.
And look at the splendor that the Vatican Royalty live in, compared to their parishoners in Bolivia or El Salvador.
They need to sell all that real estate and give the cash to the poor, just like the real apostles did.
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Did you fail to read post #386? It is all verifiable data and not opinion.
For being over 600 years old you write well!
If material prosperity damages one’s chances of salvation, what are you doing with a computer?
That’s hardly a necessity.
I’d ask what the value of your house is. If you buy new or used cars. Have a boat? Vacation home? Go on vacations?
Any number of things....
But that’d be making it personal so I won’t ask you. I’ll just stick to wondering why you have a computer and would risk your salvation like that?
So what exactly does Matthew 19:24 mean to you?
Yeah. Luxembourg is Catholic and therefore a greater nation than the Protestant United States, Great Britain or Australia? lol.
Interestingly, most of the countries in your list are evenly split between Protestants and Roman Catholics. Whereas the entire South American continent leans heavily Roman Catholic.
As the standard of living goes up in South America, such as Brazil, Protestant faiths increase and Roman Catholicism decreases.
You really ought to read more nonfiction.
In light of the Scripture you referenced, the question to you was “what are you doing with a computer?”
I don't own a computer. It belongs to my company.
Do you own a car?
You're on this forum day and night. Does the company you take a paycheck from know you spend so much time on their computer?
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