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Catholics and the Next America
First Things ^ | 9/17/2010 | Charles J Chaput

Posted on 09/18/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: annalex

WRONG.

The vast amount of evidence indicates that

HOLY SPIRIT left the building a LONG time ago

at the Vatican, most RC congregations, most Proddy congregations.

This is a fairly apt description of the realities involved:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2590989/posts


21 posted on 09/20/2010 8:07:48 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: metmom
This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation. Great idea.

So, which method of execution do you favor for heretics? Burning at the stake, or maybe the rack? Probably the stake based on the Scripture verse you posted.....

The Catholic church's track record on Inquisitions is not one anyone should wish for.

Funny the difference between Protestantism and Catholicism.

Protestants pray for and appeal to people for personal holiness and repentance and revival.

Catholics call for the heavy hand of Rome to crack down on people and force them into line.

No thanks.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED. THX.

22 posted on 09/20/2010 8:26:40 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: annalex; Markos33; RnMomof7; metmom; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; wmfights; Forest Keeper; TSgt; Quix; ...
a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea.

Again, you make a horrific statement of blood lust on this political and religious forum. THE INQUISITION slaughtered hundreds of thousands of men, women and children across the globe simply for not bowing down to the stock of a tree Rome erected in place of Christ.

Your pathetic (and often made) comment could even be taken as a literal threat on the FR religion forum. But this evil desire of yours serves to illustrate the difference between Rome, who slays with a bloody sword of steel, and Bible-believing Christians who persuade by the "sword of the Spirit," God's holy word.

Thank God every wrong is seen and shall be accounted for.

"His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." -- Psalms 19:6


"He that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done..." -- Colossians 3:25


23 posted on 09/20/2010 9:01:21 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom
lol. If I had read your post first, I could have saved myself the trouble of replying to annalex.

AMEN!

24 posted on 09/20/2010 9:03:49 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

I have to agree Quix.

For all faiths, the globe is experiencing a great falling away.

The only churches that are growing are the non-denominational mega-churches which are really community social gathering hug-fests.


25 posted on 09/20/2010 9:08:07 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: metmom; Quix; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; wmfights; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; ...

Here's something interesting. Over the weekend I was reading in the Wall Street Journal how Latin America is just now beginning to emerge out of the 18th century Roman Catholic-inspired doldrums and is starting to show signs of becoming industrialized. Specifically Brazil is seen as the engine of growth.

And the responsibility for this progress is being laid to the fact that Rome is receding in these countries while Pentecostalism and Reformed Christianity are taking hold of minds, bodies and spirits, revitalizing economies as well as individual lives.

Isn't that a positive thought?

26 posted on 09/20/2010 9:12:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom
What with the Catholic propensity to vote democratic, this Catholic influence in politics does not bode well for our country.

No kidding.

Six Roman Catholics and three Jews on the US Supreme Court.

That's not such a cheery thought either.

27 posted on 09/20/2010 9:20:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Six Roman Catholics and three Jews on the US Supreme Court.

That’s not such a cheery thought either.”

Yeah, what’s with all those Protestant Presidents and their crazy nominations?

Freegards


28 posted on 09/20/2010 9:47:18 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: annalex; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; Markos33; RnMomof7; Gamecock; wmfights; Forest Keeper; TSgt; ...
I pray that Catholicism in America rids itself from the political left that for a while got the upper hand at the Vatican II. This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation.

By "purification", do you mean "violent acts?" Because that's what you were advocating back in 2008, against people who were "attacking the church":

"I hope I’m not the only Catholic who believes there is a growing sentiment that there are plenty of us who will not turn the other cheek. I draw for inspiration the example of Islam it its willingness to exact a price for public contempt of my religion, and Meir Kahane and the Jewish Defense League, and their willingness to strike back and strike often....I’m not advocating bombs or beheadings. I do advocate fighting, and don’t draw the line at mere words."
-- FReeper DPMD, July 8, 2008
[quoting DPMP's comment above re "turning the other cheek"]
"The commandment to turn another cheek applies when someone is attacking you. When someone is attacking Christ, His Saints, or His Church, we are to strike back because we love God and one another."
-- FReeper annalex, July 8, 2008

29 posted on 09/20/2010 9:54:36 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: TSgt

Too true.

Though in many megachurches the fairly unadulterated Word of God DOES get preached persistently.

And in small groups, many individuals are dicipled toward mature Christianity.

Nevertheless, sad states of Christianity exist all over.


30 posted on 09/20/2010 10:01:13 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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If Catholics want the Catholic church purified, they ought to start with the pedophile priests, the higher ups who protected them, and then start by ex-communicating those public figures and politicians who hold to pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage positions.

That'd show the Catholics that the church is serious about what it stands for without any calls for Holy Inquisitions.

Blood lust indeed....

31 posted on 09/20/2010 10:04:47 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

If Catholics want the Catholic church purified, they ought to start with the pedophile priests, the higher ups who protected them, and then start by ex-communicating those public figures and politicians who hold to pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage positions.
That’d show the Catholics that the church is serious about what it stands for without any calls for Holy Inquisitions.

Blood lust indeed....


INDEED.

However, it appears that just as making THE SYSTEM safe for altar boy fondling . . . is becoming passe . . .

THE SYSTEM is now intent on becoming supportive of ET’s as candidates for Salvation through Christ . . . or acclaiming them as not needing Salvation . . . or . . . just getting on the globalist ET bandwagon before it gets really rev’d up good.


32 posted on 09/20/2010 10:07:45 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg

RC’s never fail to provide gamecock for material for his homepage.

What are we doing? Living in the 13th century? Calling for an Inquisition and violence and these FReepers still maintain their posting privileges?

I would like just one Catholic to find just one verse in the NT, particularly the teachings of Jesus that in any way justifies the atrocities and barbarity of the Inquisition.

What in Biblical Christianity supports the power of the church to torture and kill those who disagree with them?

What kind of warped, twisted thinking would deny a person their FREE WILL to choose to follow Christ with threats of a slow, horrible, excruciating death commanded by a man who purports to be the representative of Christ Himself on the earth? It’s totally mind boggling the rationale and justification for that and then to see calls for it repeated today.


33 posted on 09/20/2010 10:23:28 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; metmom; Quix; OLD REGGIE; HarleyD; wmfights
This is why a Holy Inquisition here in this country would be a terrific idea. The Catholic Church in America needs purifucation.

And then what, genocide?

You know when your crazy train leaves the tracks you're responsible for the wreck.

34 posted on 09/20/2010 10:43:26 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: markomalley
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THE RULES

Rule One: "Rome" is the locus of all evil in the universe.
Rule Two: In case of doubt, see Rule One.

Corollary
"Rome" must be destroyed. All else is irrelevant.
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Some folks behave in a manner indistinguishable from one who is motivated by "THE RULES" above.

35 posted on 09/20/2010 10:47:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

It’s kind of like Rome’s Rules.

Rule One: “Not Rome” is the locus of all evil in the universe.
Rule Two: In case of doubt, see Rule One.

Corollary
Anything “Not Rome” must be destroyed. All else is irrelevant.

Hence, the Inquisition....

And calls for its repeat.


36 posted on 09/20/2010 12:00:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Still waiting for a Scripture verse to defend the *Holy* Inquisition.


37 posted on 09/20/2010 12:01:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Is that an admission that "THE RULES" as posted actually govern your thought processes?
38 posted on 09/20/2010 12:03:26 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

No, just noting that it can go both ways, although the Catholics rarely seem to notice that.


39 posted on 09/20/2010 12:16:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
ROFL!!!!!

So ... do you agree, then, that some folks (perhaps, even, some folks on this forum) behave in a manner that is indistinguishable from behaviour motivated by irrational hatred of the Catholic Church?

40 posted on 09/20/2010 12:28:59 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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