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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: Mad Dawg

>>> It’s “What’s in it for me?” as the primary motivation for Christianity.

What’s in it for me — and not for thee.

“If you don’t Buy Calvin™, you don’t have ears to hear.”


11,361 posted on 10/14/2010 11:56:52 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Iscool
"Catholicism is about the Word"

Now you are starting to get it. Catholicism is not about Bibliolotry, it is about Christianity. Its message is pure and simple and preached such that a child can understand it and live it. It was introduced to and for the disenfranchised, the excluded, the throw-away of the world, the simple, and the pure. It is not the complex legal code developed by a French sodomite shyster or his predecessor Mohammud.

Matthew, Mark, and Luke all state that "whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.".

11,362 posted on 10/14/2010 11:57:20 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
You recall incorrectly.

Oh, well.

One big Gotcha Investment down the tubes.

11,363 posted on 10/14/2010 12:04:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: wagglebee
The third chapter of the Epistle of James is also very illuminating on this matter.

Being Catholic, I have to ask -- Is that in the Old Testament or the New?

11,364 posted on 10/14/2010 12:06:08 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7

Sheesh. Why do you deny the plain reading and meaning of Scripture and then make up your own fairy tales about how God must do things and pass those off as valid?

I guess you’ve learned your Catholicism well.


11,365 posted on 10/14/2010 12:08:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mad Dawg
LOL!

Actually, as a Catholic I SHOULD have said the Epistle of Saint James, while a Protestant would typically call it the Book of James.

11,366 posted on 10/14/2010 12:10:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Iscool

>>>Has Jesus sat on the Throne and Judged you yet?

“Yes He certainly has.”

Never been wrong?

Or could God “change his mind” about you?

:)


11,367 posted on 10/14/2010 12:13:31 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
"Why do you deny the plain reading and meaning of Scripture and then make up your own fairy tales about how God must do things and pass those off as valid?"

Because, as the anti-Catholics keep explaining, word choice is critical. Since I am not blessed with the hyper-Calvinism decoder ring or cipher codes to tell me what the wording "really" means and when it means it I have to ask. So I'll ask again, is there a "book" or was that symbolic?

11,368 posted on 10/14/2010 12:18:11 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: wagglebee

That’s an interesting cultural usage. Here a lot of Catholics also use the “book of” expression.

I was a lector in the pepsicola church from the age of 10, so I was programmed to be precise, “The Book of the Prophet X,” “The epistle General of James,” “The Second Epistle of st. Paul to the Corinthians,” blah blah.


11,369 posted on 10/14/2010 12:18:46 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

This is a side note. I recently started listening to the Gospels read aloud (you can find various sites online that provide this).

The early Christians did this, listened to them read, and so it’s more similar to the medium for which they were written. It’s very different than reading them yourself, much different than cross-referencing study, just hearing the story unfold, told as it was centuries ago - worth a try for anyone interested. I just finished listening to Mark and recommend it for a start.


11,370 posted on 10/14/2010 12:19:31 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom; Natural Law; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; ...
Why do you deny the plain reading and meaning of Scripture

If someone that you ABSOLUTELY TRUSTED said to you, "Unless you eat this, you WILL NOT have life in you." What would you think is the "plain reading" of that?

11,371 posted on 10/14/2010 12:29:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: D-fendr

That sounds great!


11,372 posted on 10/14/2010 12:29:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wagglebee
If someone that you ABSOLUTELY TRUSTED said to you, "Unless you eat this, you WILL NOT have life in you." What would you think is the "plain reading" of that?

It means eat a soda cracker, duh.

11,373 posted on 10/14/2010 12:43:56 PM PDT by conservonator (How many times? 70 x 7!)
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To: wagglebee; conservonator; Religion Moderator
"It means eat a soda cracker, duh."

The definition of profanity is to treat with contempt or irreverence for which is sacred. It would seem that the conservanator holds the Eucharist, the Body of Christ, in low regard. It seems odd that a forum such as this would permit actual profanity but would ban "potty language" words used by toddlers.

The good news is that an anti-Catholic calling the Eucharist a soda cracker doesn't make it one. There is no opposite process to transubstantiation. It only blackens the soul of those saying it.

11,374 posted on 10/14/2010 1:05:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law; conservonator; Religion Moderator

Hold your fire, conservonator is on our side, the “duh” indicated sarcasm.


11,375 posted on 10/14/2010 1:09:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wmfights; kosta50; narses; wagglebee; Judith Anne; Natural Law; Mad Dawg
I'm sorry your church teaches this. It seems to be the standard response from RC's. If you read Scripture on your own Roms 10:9, or ICor 15:1-4 will teach you The Gospel.

Jesus is incapable of teaching the Gospel - but it takes only five verses of Paul to do so? No wonder your theology differs so significantly from Christianity.

11,376 posted on 10/14/2010 1:10:43 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Natural Law; conservator; wagglebee; Religion Moderator

I thought he was just being sarcastic. His other comments do not indicate that he is an anti-Catholic. It appears he is Catholic.


11,377 posted on 10/14/2010 1:14:02 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: wagglebee; conservonator
"Hold your fire, conservonator is on our side, the “duh” indicated sarcasm."

My apologies. There is a fine line between sarcasm and insult and I was too quick or defensive to realize it. Call it a Pavlovian response.

11,378 posted on 10/14/2010 1:15:10 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Judith Anne; Alex Murphy
A reasonable person might call that stalking-type behavior.

A stalking horse? Perhaps he does, but I don't sense the vindictiveness that we get out of the various anti Catholic Reformed Chuckies that wander the FR RF.

11,379 posted on 10/14/2010 1:23:34 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: wagglebee
If the Church found out that the various Calvinist religions believe in the same god that you guys specifically do, they'd probably re-evaluate their acceptance of Calvinist baptism and put it into the same specific bin as LDS baptism.

You bring up an excellent point. Calvinism, at least as it's portrayed on FR, is nothing more than a synthesis of Arianism, Nestorianism and various other gnostic heresies worshipping a "god" who appears to be straight out of a Wagnerian opera.

Or the Norse pantheon - appropriate since the Reformed seem to believe in an array of gods. What difference in behaviour does the Reformed God manifest that is apparent when compared to Odin? Other than the names?

11,380 posted on 10/14/2010 1:26:47 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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