Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Truly, the Spirit attended the compilation of the canon as confirmed in us when by reading the words of God, we are enlivened (quickened.)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. - John 6:63
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) - John 7:38-39
Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. - John 4:10
God's Name is I AM.
Which is exactly what that monstrance shows - Mary carrying Christ. To be exact, it is an IMAGE of Mary carrying the REAL Presence of Christ. Sorry you can't see it.
. I don’t see what the problem is. It looks perfectly okay to me, in fact it’s very beautiful.
First, let's look at the evidences you presented back in #5750:
Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of the purest gold for God’s Word.
True in part. The Ark holds the Covenant. The contract or promises. made to Israel.
Heb 9:4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
[...] Mary is the ark of the New Covenant and is the purest vessel for the Word of God made flesh.
False. Christ Himself is the pure vessel. Christ Himself holds BOTH Covenants.
[...] Mary the Ark of the New Covenant is even more immaculate and undefiled, spared by God from original sin so that she could bear His eternal Word in her womb.
FALSE!
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
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Christ is the ONLY ONE of the entire race of man who is immaculate and un-defiled.
It is blasphemy to place the attributes of God upon another. You (all) blaspheme the Holy One.
1 Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account of Uzzah and the Ark. For God to dwell within Mary the Ark, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God would let the finger of Satan touch His Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.
Utter NONSENSE. Christ spent the entirety of His ministry in the presence of sin. That was His point all along - to be with the sinners, as was the case of His disciples. It is Pharisaical to promote this sense of purity. Christ remained pure in spite of sin, not by being removed from it.
"Mary, conceived without sin" is a damnable lie, and blasphemy against GOD. The attribute is Christ's ALONE.
1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the awesome reverence the Jews had for the Ark - veneration, vestments, songs, harps, lyres, cymbals, trumpets.
1Ch 15:2 Then David said, None ought to carry the ark of God but the Levites: for them hath the LORD chosen to carry the ark of God, and to minister unto him for ever.
Who do the Levites serve? It ain't Mary.
Luke’s conspicuous comparison’s between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant.
Pure nonsense. While pregnant, wherever Mary is, the Christ is. Christ Himself "contains" the Covenants. Christ is the full and realized containment (embodiment) of the Law - and it is He Himself who "contains" His "flesh" and "blood" as the Living Word, and Eternal Life of God, given unto men. *NOT MARY*
Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
This is SO offensive as to merit extra comment: David leapt before His LORD. David's prophetic bend clearly shows that He KNOWS Christ. The very SAME condition is present in John the Baptist, who never showed any special deference to Mary in the length of his Life before the Lord - Though that deference is made to his King, to be certain.
Again, this reading of yours shows a Pharisaical bend toward cherry picking verses to create what wasn't ever there... And it reeks of Rome. Mary was blessed in that she carried the Son of David! The Messiah, whom Israel had yearned for. No doubt a high honor - But it is the Messiah who is the point, *not* His mother.
Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary’s offspring are those who keep God’s commandments and bear testimony to Jesus. This demonstrates, as Catholics have always believed, that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.
This alone defeats the entire defense from Revelations: This "Roman Mary's" "children" do not keep the commandments of God:
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God[...]
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God [...]
When did Mary flee into the wilderness?
This woman in Revelations has her feet upon the moon - Prophetically, the moon is the permanence of God, and crosses into the Mosaic Covenant - She is standing upon the Torah. There s no doubt in my mind that this woman is Israel. It cannot be the Bride (church), because it exists before the birth of Christ... Unless one sees the elect in an OT fashion - Then it must be spiritual Israel, which is the same thing as the Church. ::========================================================:: Now, on to the picture: The woman in the picture sits upon a replica of the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark IS the Throne of Almighty God on earth;
Exo 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
Exo 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
This is not speaking only of the Shekinah Glory inhabiting the Mercy Seat, But speaks prophetically of a time when the Law will go out from Jerusalem FOREVER.
Who rightly sits in the Holy of Holies upon the Mercy Seat of the Throne of God (Hint: it ain't Mary)
This alone, is the highest form of blasphemy - a creature sitting upon the Throne of God, pretending a right to the Mercy Seat.
But further, A woman dressed in scarlet with Bel's (Baal's) "sacred heart," complete with male and female rays, sitting upon Bel's "fertile crescent" - The same crescent the Mohammedans use... Measure the distance of the heart from the horns of the crescent, then look at any Islamic flag, and the placing of the star in the horns of it's crescent. The whole scene of the woman is backdropped with a Pagan sun disk...
This is clearly Semiramis, the Whore of Babylon, sitting in meditation, upon the most powerful throne on Earth. This is a perfect likeness of the Abomination.
And no doubt, the people bow before her.
That you cannot see this is simply astounding. That chair belongs to Christ.
[Quixicated emphasis in read at the end there.]
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Given that the RCC didn't come along until around 300-400 AD, we figure that even IF Peter was in Rome, he was pretty dried out by then. We don't think he was pontificating or writing encyclicals by then. . . . not that he ever did.
Truly, the Spirit attended the compilation of the canon as confirmed in us when by reading the words of God, we are enlivened (quickened.)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. - John 6:63
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) - John 7:38-39
Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. - John 4:10
God's Name is I AM.
IT USED TO BE RELIABLE USING THE WORDS ONLY.
NOW, EVEN HEXEDECIMAL IS SCREWY.
I don’t know what changed!
I have a brand new HP monitor. Using IE8
Strange.
BTW, I’ve tried to find a page with HEXEDECIMAL CODES AND COLORS THAT WOULD PRINT THE COLORS. Can’t find such yet. If anyone knows of such, please let me know—THAT IS—OF THOSE THAT WOULD WORK AS LISTED AND COLORED!!!
SHEESH.
We are saying that "service" so called,("dulia", praying to, bowing down before, veneration, petitioning the dead) is forbiden by God in plain terms. Can you provide some scriptural reference prescribed by God for service "dulia" to a departed "saint"?
2cnd Commandment: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God,
Can you tell us why the church removed and ignores the 2cnd Commandment?
Finally, a name for it. I've noticed the same thing.
I think a lot comes from retired priests and young seminarians, neither who has anything better to do than "swamp the internet" with lies and RC propaganda.
That link even quotes Patrick as saying Wayne “did it for the family.”
In truth, Patrick did it for the family. And who cares, if it made his grieving RC family feel better?
But as his daughter explained, his father didn’t convert; he merely was given last rites by a priest.
All this “baptized a Roman Catholic” is nuts. RCs view his Presbyterian baptism as valid. “Once baptized, always baptized.” So Wayne was not re-baptized a Catholic. He may have received last rites from a priest, but as you said, Iscool, he was heavily sedated with morphine for the incredible pain of lung and stomach cancer, and thus he was out of it.
Wayne had had lung cancer for years before he died. He was ill and dying for many months. If he had wanted to convert, he had plenty of time to actually do it. John Ford, Maureen O’Hara, his three ex-wives, and some of his children who were raised RC all tried to convert him.
He didn’t convert.
It’s very unseemly how RCs boast of things that didn’t happen, like fictitious deathbed conversions. Apparently it’s habitual.
As I said, I knew people who knew Wayne. He was a big, stubborn, talented, generous, grateful Presbyterian.
God's Church has JESUS as THE CORNERSTONE complete with HIS WORD, HIS WAY for It is Written. Pure and clean! The members of HIS BODY are called Christians.
AMEN!
Do you define sola scriptura as that only those doctrines are to be admitted or confessed that are found directly within or indirectly by using valid logical deduction or valid deductive reasoning from scripture
Let me try one more time.
Please define Sola Scripture.
Christ Himself is the pure vessel. Christ Himself holds BOTH Covenants.
Christ is the ONLY ONE of the entire race of man who is immaculate and un-defiled. It is blasphemy to place the attributes of God upon another. You (all) blaspheme the Holy One.
AMEN!
And Rome denies the Holy Spirit since it believes the Holy Spirit is given to the magisterium and thus to be dispersed through sacraments by the magisterium to the people.
What a profound and tragic lie. The Holy Spirit is given personally and specifically to believers, each one named by God for His glory.
Rome's error comes perilously close to the unpardonable sin.
Who rightly sits in the Holy of Holies upon the Mercy Seat of the Throne of God (Hint: it ain't Mary)
This alone, is the highest form of blasphemy - a creature sitting upon the Throne of God, pretending a right to the Mercy Seat.
But further, A woman dressed in scarlet with Bel's (Baal's) "sacred heart," complete with male and female rays, sitting upon Bel's "fertile crescent" - The same crescent the Mohammedans use... Measure the distance of the heart from the horns of the crescent, then look at any Islamic flag, and the placing of the star in the horns of it's crescent. The whole scene of the woman is backdropped with a Pagan sun disk...
This is clearly Semiramis, the Whore of Babylon, sitting in meditation, upon the most powerful throne on Earth. This is a perfect likeness of the Abomination.
And no doubt, the people bow before her.
That you cannot see this is simply astounding. That chair belongs to Christ.
AMEN! For those given eyes to see.
And that's where Jesus says, 'Get away from me, I never knew you'...
But it's far bigger than that...It's 'what are you counting on to get you to heaven'...Are you trusting in what Jesus did for you or are you trusting in what you do for Jesus???
And there's the Spiritual aspect of Christianity...
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
These are plain words...They don't need interpretation...Do you have the Spirit of God within you??? Does THAT Spirit confirm with your spirit that you are a child of God???
IF you never went to your Church again, would that Spirit still confirm that you are still a child of God???
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
If you don't know if you have that Spirit within you, you likely don't...
They only ask questions. The don’t answer them. It’s a tactic learned long ago. Exegesis by evasion.
And Jesus said, 'I am the door'...He did not say, 'I am like the door'...
So you got a point???
According to you guys, at some point during the service, the bread turns into flesh...What prompts the change from bread to flesh??? Is there any instruction in the scripture about how or when this bread turns into flesh???
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