Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
To argue with us, you have to understand us a little. WE think there aren't a bunch of Churches. There is one. All baptized people are members of it. Some are kind of separated, some or on the fringes, some are right in there.
I don't spend a lot of time on this question. I think the place of Israel in the cosmic scheme has never been 'de Fide'. I am gathering the impression that Vatican II took some new steps in thinking about Israel.
We still pray for them and for God's beneficence on them. We wouldn't turn down a Jew who wanted to be a Christian. There is a sense that somehow the Church, made of Jews and gentiles, then and now, sort of subsumes Israel, eschatologically speaking.
But there's another sense that the Jews are pretty wonderful as they are, and that God will take care of the details.
BTW I don't see how the role of Israel could be separated from the idea of varying and progressing revelations and dispensations.
But I, moiself, am going to sleep now. YAY!
With a little study on typology and I think you'd be fine.
Nice intro to your post. There is indeed a Protestant Bible, its the one with the missing books.
If you were truly interested in the Holy Inspired Word of God you would not redact it and the exclude the entire Apostolic Tradition portion of the Revealed Word.
I suppose all churches have those who are at very degrees of nderstanding of their faith...I'm not there yet and doubtful most will be throughly educated this side of heaven.
But there are the differences..and most catholics I have spoken to do not know why they believe as they do....the catholics on these threads are an exception to the rule of the catholics I have encountered.
INDEED to the supreme degree. Well put. Accurately put.
Accurately put per the former FR RC's.
Accurately put per approximately 90-98% of the RC's in my social network over my 63 years.
Accurately put per the diligent, devout, dedicated, earnest, authentic, heart-devoted former priests who's narratives have been posted.
The rabid clique sorts who don't sound like they have a microgram of discernment, honesty nor integrity and less personal insight disagree. VERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYY IMPRESSIVE.
NOT.
That’s what we keep trying to tell the Catholics. That’s why they need to get back to Scripture and give up on the man made traditions made into doctrine and other unsupportable fairy tales they’ve created.
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INDEED. Though I’d likely put it that . . . the enemy of our souls has created . . . and sold the RC’s on.
Do you understand what we mean by 'type' and "prefigures"? MAry wasn;t literally the ark of the covenant or the ark of Noah. But they have aspects which are importantly similar to her, as the Torah is a 'type' of Jesus the true Word, and as all living are saved (at least in principle) by Him whom Mary bore.
Since the "Reformation" there is almost nothing but materialism, and few get what the reality of ideas is.
Since Salvation is determined in ones mind and heart the accusation that one is going to hell is the ultimate exercise in mind reading.
No one complained.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph. 6:12).
Yes we do.
Now how does that relate to typology?
I am beginning to realize that the Virgin Mary exists from Eve through the OT, through the NT through Revelation. There is NO place she isn’t. And wherever she is, the Catholic Church is. Now she is the woman of Rev. 12. ..
shaking my head in true wonderment and realizing it’s useless, useless...
INDEED. It’s a wonder they don’t have her on TV selling Holy Charmin.
However, it’s not useless. HIS WORD does not return void.
And, lurkers on the fence may well be snatched from the fires by our humble words.
THANKS THANKS
for your kind affirmation.
I just wish such were NOT true.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THOSE WHO LOVE THE LORD.
If you said "Those who believe ... are going to hell" that would not be mind reading because it is speaking of a group, not an individual Freeper. It's arms length.
And if you said "I think you are going to hell." that would be expressing your own mind, not reading the mind of another Freeper. It would not be "making it personal." However, if I determine the remark could result in making the thread "about" individual Freepers - I will intervene.
Yes i understand. But i’m not satisfied with your answer. therefore it’s my job to satisfy this question for myself.. it’s more than you are saying. sorry. but it’s more. types and prefigures of Mary from Eve through Rev. 12 tells me she is the MAIN focus of MOST of your teachings. And your answer regarding Israel/Catholic Church wasn’t much more help. THere is a big black hole of information we, or maybe just me, aren’t getting. Or seeing. It’s about Mary/Rev. 12, Israel/Rome, and Jews/Catholics.
Types of Christ are clearly spelled out in Scripture.
The types of Mary are a construct of the Catholic church in an effort to boost their otherwise unsupportable doctrines of her.
LOL!!! OK you made me laugh, and that's what i needed! THANKS! I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow, looking for some answers to some questions that really need to be answered. No it's not useless. And His Word does not return void. But there is something, i'm not sure what it is at this point, but something, that we're not seeing right now, but that we're about to see, that will shine more light into the darkness.
Praise God! Thank you metmom! And HERE it is, what's been bothering me, but i couldn't define. They have typed her from Eve through Rev. 12. WHY? That's the question. That it's been done is not in denial.Why must Mary be typed from the beginning to the end of God's Word?
Typical response.
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