Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Rule Check! Does a Quix warning count or does only a Dr. E. warning warrant a shot?
Hey - I like that ‘tude! Great point; dealing with these clowns who arm themselves with lies, misdirection and false witnessing is one helluva lot easier than taking on a lion or that dude with a net and trident - thanks! This is positively Bozo’s Circus compared to real problems from the past.
On this particular thread, it started on post 3. We are now at post 4302.
I’m sure that’s a MUCH EASIER SELL
in the Proddy camp.
We are by doctrine and custom MUCH more likely to call and FEEL toward others fellow believers as FAMILY.
Yes, Babs. Your love for Calvin is well known.
BBBBBUUUTTT
ALL that costly POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE AND RITUALIZED BOTHER
HAS
to COUNT for SOMETHING
doesn’t it?
I mean . . . what’s the POINT
of being Roman Catholic
otherwise???
I hope no one saw you prematurely doing your endzone dance. Its pretty hard to put that back in the bottle.
Do you think that all Catholics operate like a Cyborg hive; that we share the same mind" You made a claim that "RC apologists" and then proceeded to show the opinion of a single Catholic who does not deny the resurrection is miraculous, only that definitionally, God doesn't need to work miracles on Himself.
It is that same lack of reflection and rush to conclusion that has impaired so many of your positions and arguments.
Tooooooooooo true.
Maybe the use of the words
lie, liar, lies
needs to be an automatic indication of too thin a skin to be on an open thread.
We just don't believe that you have served as bridesmaid in three and would have in three more except that you had to go to Europe. You won't even tell me if they were held in a cathedral, a basilica major, a basilica minor or a parish church.
As I said, one of these "high mass Roman Catholic weddings" between two born and baptized Roman Catholics ended in divorce after five years of marriage.
I believe that the divorce is equally as possible as the claim of marriage in the first place.
I’d be concerned about
hell fire
for some of the things the RC’s throw around so glibly about other Christians hereon.
Oh, right, first they label us as beyond the pale out-group members
then it’s OK. . . . earns extra white hankys etc.
what a farce.
Not really, The problem then is the same problem today.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith. And that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8,9).
"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thess. 2:10).
Did Yah'shua create a corporation called "church". Church is from the Koine Greek "Ekklesia" How does YHvH define "church" i.e.Ekklesia ? Is it all those called out by YHvH ? Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded or Did the "church" exist earlier ? Using the LXX as a guide we see that the EkklesiaInteresting assertion.
A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10 NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8
What is the point of your question about "kepha"shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I think you bring up a very important point regarding sola scriptura and evolving revelation. I believe God has revealed his truth to us and has preserved it in a form that we all can access one way or another (reading or being read to, ok?). This doesn't mean that anyone can just pick up the Bible, open it to any section, run their finger down the page, start reading and voila it automatically makes sense. That rarely happens, although some verses are meant to be exceptionally clear. It takes prayer, study, openness to the leading and illumination of the Holy Spirit and time. Christian maturity takes time just has human maturity does. We start out with milk and we grow into meat.
I fully accept that many deep thinking, Godly, theologians spent countless years in their studies, in discussing with each other and in their general agreements with conclusions on doctrines. They helped the entire body of Christ to grow as well in their understanding. But this doesn't mean that ALL such "theologians" were 100% correct in their conclusions. I don't know of any Christian faith that thinks mortal humans were always right no matter how brilliant they were. Biases, prejudices, philosophy, pride are all parts of our makeup. Some were more susceptible than others to those vices and some were more "in touch" with the Spirit than others as well. Even today, we have teachers and theologians that are helping us to understand the deeper things of God. None of us should be so proud as to think we don't need each other in our spiritual walk and growth.
So, my simple point is this. Scripture is our sole BASE of authority. No doctrine should ever contradict what God's word says but sometimes, when specifics aren't "spelled out", God gives us his teachers, pastors, evangelists, etc. to help us in our understanding and we all must rely on his Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.
I’m not sure. Perhaps such a display is more of a Bozo the Clown, rather than the Babs of Animal House that we are equally used to.
Worship is not the subject at hand, Where does worship enter into this?
Since yhou are a self professed expert on all things Catholic why don't you tell us exactly what the the "High" designates, how it differes from a regular Mass, who presides, and what prompts its use?
You wrote:
The odds of Kosta's pink unicorns on Jupiter are infinitely greater than any OPC antiCatholic serving as bridesmaid at three Roman Catholic High Mass weddings. You spoke of six, but you went to Europe instead. Six Roman Catholic High Mass weddings? Impossible. It did not happen.
You are wrong.
In POST 3619 I wrote...
MARK BSNR: You claimed that you were a bridesmaid at three Roman Catholic weddings. It is that statement that lacks credulity.
DR.E: lol. You obviously don't know anything about sororities. It could have been six, but I left for Europe.
Get the picture, pal? I did NOT say the additional three weddings were high RC masses, but merely Roman Catholic weddings.
In fact, YOU said it. lol.
And again I'll assert you know nothing about sororities and the summer after graduation.
The fact you are so incredulous is, in itself, incredible. I had no idea I was participating in something that so many Roman Catholics apparently wanted for themselves but couldn't muster.
Envy is not attractive.
However in Lutheran circles, Peter's confession has been the 'rock' for ten times as long. Upthread, there seems to be a disagreement amongst the Catholics however.
I personally think it's wrong to keep a "record of wrongs"...but that's just me. It's the same thing as holding grudges...not something a Christian should do. JMHO
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