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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: MarkBsnr; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
"The RM has repeatedly weighed in about thin skins on open threads and has been wholesale repeatedly and thoroughly ignored on that score."

Rule Check! Does a Quix warning count or does only a Dr. E. warning warrant a shot?

4,301 posted on 07/30/2010 7:15:32 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Jvette

Hey - I like that ‘tude! Great point; dealing with these clowns who arm themselves with lies, misdirection and false witnessing is one helluva lot easier than taking on a lion or that dude with a net and trident - thanks! This is positively Bozo’s Circus compared to real problems from the past.


4,302 posted on 07/30/2010 7:17:03 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Mad Dawg

On this particular thread, it started on post 3. We are now at post 4302.


4,303 posted on 07/30/2010 7:19:15 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I’m sure that’s a MUCH EASIER SELL

in the Proddy camp.

We are by doctrine and custom MUCH more likely to call and FEEL toward others fellow believers as FAMILY.


4,304 posted on 07/30/2010 7:21:22 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It wasn’t funny the first time you posted it.

Yes, Babs. Your love for Calvin is well known.


4,305 posted on 07/30/2010 7:23:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

BBBBBUUUTTT

ALL that costly POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE AND RITUALIZED BOTHER

HAS

to COUNT for SOMETHING

doesn’t it?

I mean . . . what’s the POINT

of being Roman Catholic

otherwise???


4,306 posted on 07/30/2010 7:24:06 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"RC apologists"

I hope no one saw you prematurely doing your endzone dance. Its pretty hard to put that back in the bottle.

Do you think that all Catholics operate like a Cyborg hive; that we share the same mind" You made a claim that "RC apologists" and then proceeded to show the opinion of a single Catholic who does not deny the resurrection is miraculous, only that definitionally, God doesn't need to work miracles on Himself.

It is that same lack of reflection and rush to conclusion that has impaired so many of your positions and arguments.

4,307 posted on 07/30/2010 7:24:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Tooooooooooo true.

Maybe the use of the words

lie, liar, lies

needs to be an automatic indication of too thin a skin to be on an open thread.


4,308 posted on 07/30/2010 7:25:36 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lol. The fact that YOU may think there is something "special" about a high mass wedding does not mean that the rest of the world has to go along with your delusion.

We just don't believe that you have served as bridesmaid in three and would have in three more except that you had to go to Europe. You won't even tell me if they were held in a cathedral, a basilica major, a basilica minor or a parish church.

As I said, one of these "high mass Roman Catholic weddings" between two born and baptized Roman Catholics ended in divorce after five years of marriage.

I believe that the divorce is equally as possible as the claim of marriage in the first place.

4,309 posted on 07/30/2010 7:27:00 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’d be concerned about

hell fire

for some of the things the RC’s throw around so glibly about other Christians hereon.

Oh, right, first they label us as beyond the pale out-group members

then it’s OK. . . . earns extra white hankys etc.

what a farce.


4,310 posted on 07/30/2010 7:28:09 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
This is positively Bozo’s Circus compared to real problems from the past.

Not really, The problem then is the same problem today.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith. And that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8,9).

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thess. 2:10).

4,311 posted on 07/30/2010 7:28:29 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Natural Law
The Holy Spirit revealed the New Testament portion of written Word of God to mankind through His Church. Likewise, the Holy Spirit reveals the Holy Tradition portion of the Word of God through His same Church and the same process

Interesting assertion.

Did Yah'shua create a corporation called "church".

Church is from the Koine Greek "Ekklesia"

How does YHvH define "church" i.e.Ekklesia ?

Is it all those called out by YHvH ?

A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.

Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?

or

Did the "church" exist earlier ?

Using the LXX as a guide we see that the Ekklesia
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10

NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

4,312 posted on 07/30/2010 7:28:39 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Mad Dawg
What is the point of your question about "kepha"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

4,313 posted on 07/30/2010 7:30:14 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Mad Dawg; small voice in the wilderness
Pardon me for being so behind in my responses. I realize your post was made about four hours ago, so bear with me please. I try not to miss anyone's input.

I think you bring up a very important point regarding sola scriptura and evolving revelation. I believe God has revealed his truth to us and has preserved it in a form that we all can access one way or another (reading or being read to, ok?). This doesn't mean that anyone can just pick up the Bible, open it to any section, run their finger down the page, start reading and voila it automatically makes sense. That rarely happens, although some verses are meant to be exceptionally clear. It takes prayer, study, openness to the leading and illumination of the Holy Spirit and time. Christian maturity takes time just has human maturity does. We start out with milk and we grow into meat.

I fully accept that many deep thinking, Godly, theologians spent countless years in their studies, in discussing with each other and in their general agreements with conclusions on doctrines. They helped the entire body of Christ to grow as well in their understanding. But this doesn't mean that ALL such "theologians" were 100% correct in their conclusions. I don't know of any Christian faith that thinks mortal humans were always right no matter how brilliant they were. Biases, prejudices, philosophy, pride are all parts of our makeup. Some were more susceptible than others to those vices and some were more "in touch" with the Spirit than others as well. Even today, we have teachers and theologians that are helping us to understand the deeper things of God. None of us should be so proud as to think we don't need each other in our spiritual walk and growth.

So, my simple point is this. Scripture is our sole BASE of authority. No doctrine should ever contradict what God's word says but sometimes, when specifics aren't "spelled out", God gives us his teachers, pastors, evangelists, etc. to help us in our understanding and we all must rely on his Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.

4,314 posted on 07/30/2010 7:30:39 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Natural Law

I’m not sure. Perhaps such a display is more of a Bozo the Clown, rather than the Babs of Animal House that we are equally used to.


4,315 posted on 07/30/2010 7:30:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Overseer or supervisor is the meaning of the term “episkopos”. It was not a title but a description of a person's function. (1 Tim. 3:1)

Worship is not the subject at hand, Where does worship enter into this?

4,316 posted on 07/30/2010 7:32:51 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"The fact that YOU may think there is something "special" about a high mass wedding does not mean that the rest of the world has to go along with your delusion."

Since yhou are a self professed expert on all things Catholic why don't you tell us exactly what the the "High" designates, how it differes from a regular Mass, who presides, and what prompts its use?

4,317 posted on 07/30/2010 7:33:01 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: MarkBsnr; Natural Law; Deo volente
Mark, part of what makes these discussions so difficult is that you get your facts wrong. You accuse others of "lies" when you can't seem to even repeat posts correctly.

You wrote:

The odds of Kosta's pink unicorns on Jupiter are infinitely greater than any OPC antiCatholic serving as bridesmaid at three Roman Catholic High Mass weddings. You spoke of six, but you went to Europe instead. Six Roman Catholic High Mass weddings? Impossible. It did not happen.

You are wrong.

In POST 3619 I wrote...

MARK BSNR: You claimed that you were a bridesmaid at three Roman Catholic weddings. It is that statement that lacks credulity.

DR.E: lol. You obviously don't know anything about sororities. It could have been six, but I left for Europe.

Get the picture, pal? I did NOT say the additional three weddings were high RC masses, but merely Roman Catholic weddings.

In fact, YOU said it. lol.

And again I'll assert you know nothing about sororities and the summer after graduation.

The fact you are so incredulous is, in itself, incredible. I had no idea I was participating in something that so many Roman Catholics apparently wanted for themselves but couldn't muster.

Envy is not attractive.

4,318 posted on 07/30/2010 7:35:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos
In Evangelical circles, the "little rock, big rock" theory is fairly recent. Nearly every Protestant commentary written in the last 50 years interprets Peter as the rock upon which the Church was built.

However in Lutheran circles, Peter's confession has been the 'rock' for ten times as long. Upthread, there seems to be a disagreement amongst the Catholics however.

4,319 posted on 07/30/2010 7:35:48 PM PDT by xone
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To: don-o
I'm bored with counting spitwads.

I personally think it's wrong to keep a "record of wrongs"...but that's just me. It's the same thing as holding grudges...not something a Christian should do. JMHO

4,320 posted on 07/30/2010 7:36:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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