Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Hey, it’s your Church that has come up with word, Word, written, unwritten, written and unwritten together.
But that does raise a good question: just where in all those word/Word beliefs does Christ THE WORD appear?
I would rather that we thank St. Augustine, a man of God; as opposed to Calvin, a man of Lucifer, and Mohammed.
lol. Either way, there’s lot of gambling going on in those church halls. 8~)
No, the Catholics don't agree with the meanings...The accept the meanings as they are told to...
By now, there are well over a hundred thousand Protestant denominations...
What you fail to recognize is that those who believe the scriptures have very few disagreements over it...It's those, like Catholics who don't believe what the scriptures say, or don't like what the scriptures say so they change it...That's where the majority of divisions come from...
But even then, unlike the Catholic religion, they are not important enough divisions to disqualify most from rightly being able to call themselves Christians...
Actually, there was Luther, then Zwingli and Calvin, and then the floodgates opened to the manmade creation of anything and everything that they could think of. The Restoration movement raised the number of these novel religions exponentially, and their numbers continue today. Look in your local phone book for evidence, especially in any large metropolitan area.
LOL!!! Just yesterday you were sure that Hebrew as a language was dead 400 years before Christ.
Now you seem to be reduced to fighting for the idea that a devout and orthodox-raised Nazarene could not possibly speak Hebrew, which was undoubtedly spoken in both the synagogues and the Temple (psst: Ezra). Yes.... the Temple: Where that twelve year old Nazarene astounded the scholars with His intimate knowledge of the Scriptures... THAT Temple.
This argument is well past over. If you want to argue just for the sake of argument, I am not interested in continuing.
If you actually have an interest in the truth, I might suggest a work by an eminent scholar, Dr. David Flusser: Judaism and the Origins of Christianity (Jerusalem: Magnes Press, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, 1988)
Especially when he calls Peter "Rocky"!
Well, Peter did start from humble beginnings and fought his way through adversity and many errors to succeed in his tasks.
What complete crock of lunacy. Catholics freely accept the teachings of our Church or leave like some of the more ignorant anti-Catholics on FR. The difference is that we have the benefit of the greatest spiritual and theological minds in history working under the guidance of the Holy Spirit for nearly 2,000 years. On the other hand, Protestants have very low standards. Were the Protestant standards to be extrapolated to medicine or law Protestants would all die young and in prison.
No, it doesn't. The ideograms are a record of what the letter represented originally as a pictograph or hieroglyphic. Each letter also has an assigned number and meaning. They are also present in Phoenician, and in Greek. But the value in Greek or Phoenician is not expressive in the Judeo-Christian sense. That is only to be found in Hebrew.
For instance, the simplest meaning I could point to is the letter tav, whose ideogram is a perfect representation of a Christian cross, and whose meaning is "covenant."
Kabbalism has nothing to do with it.
Do Catholics have their special Catholic only definitions of those words, too?
Unlike the Sola Scriptura crowd, we Catholic actually pay attention to Scripture and what it says. Let us go to:
John 1: 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
One of the fascinating things about the Sola Scriptura crowd is that they apparently cannot tell the difference between the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, God Almighty, and words in a book. Do you worship a book? Or do you, as Catholics do, worship the Lord God Almighty?
Do you think that the words of men equal or surpass the quotations of Jesus Christ Almighty? Paulicians do. Especially when supplemented by OT words of OT men, not the words spoken by God to Moses who transcribed them.
Read John 1 and revisit your statement. I think that you may look at things differently.
but perhaps you could enlighten me as to the meanings, if that list is not correct. thanks
lol. So you've found one Presbyterian church that didn't include a reading from the Gospels in one Sunday morning service. There's still more Scripture being preached in that Presbyterian church than in any Roman Catholic service I've ever attended. Your little exhibition merely highlights the fact that Protestant churches preach from the entire Scriptures, whereas Rome ignores the Epistles and the Old Testament because those book directly contradict Rome's ideology (which is also contradicted by the Gospels.)
The usual rule, according to the Presbyterian Order of Worship, is to preach from the Gospels as well as the Epistles and the Old Testament.
The length RC apologists go to in order to defame Christian worship is hilarious.
Presbyterians, as most Protestants, spend their Sundays praising God, preaching His holy word, studying Scripture, hearing the Gospel, singing His praises and praying to the Triune God alone.
I realize this is foreign to most Roman Catholics who spend their Sundays on their knees contemplating their own good works; ignorantly praying to dead people; venerating Mary as a "co-redeemer;" and most egregiously of all, partaking in the blasphemy they call the eucharist which is nothing more than "another Christ" ignoring the teaching of Hebrews by offering what he wrongly presumes to be Christ again for new sins committed which, in fact, is a charade of true Christianity and an affront to Jesus Christ who has not been brought down from heaven to be served up again like yesterday's pork roast, but who, after having paid the total price for all the sins of His flock, now resides in heaven where He sits making His enemies such as Rome his footstool.
And don't forget the sermon on the Scriptures, which is the centerpiece of the Christian worship service.
But no blasphemy or idolatry or superstition or pagan attempts at alchemy.
Try to follow their good and Godly leadership.
If they spent as much time studying the Scriptures as they do studying the worshipping habits of non-catholics, they could actually make some progress. Who goes on-line and googles a church in Los Alamos, NM, in order to make a point about something they don't even CARE about? Supposedly..
lol. They're not a very consistent bunch. Contradiction is a by-product of lousy doctrine and misguided worship.
Sure. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. In your former post, you state:
The *Word of God* is *Scripture and Tradition TOGETHER*.
This is not what the Church, nor Scripture states.
And they say we spend all our time criticizing Rome. lol.
They pick nits and call that theology.
Let me be the first to call Bovine Scat! I seriously doubt that you have EVER attended a single Catholic service, let alone mass or you would know that every service has a reading from the OT, the Epistles and the Gospels accompanied by a homily.
It really is pitiful when to watch the anti-Catholics like you stoop to outright lies in the comparison and contrast of the belief systems. It is only confirmation of how incomplete and false the word of Calvin really is.
Ok. The Word OF God, not The Word, is Jesus Christ.
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