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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Upbeat

“... how is this man any different from me?”

You and he share much, but he chose to take all of the gifts God gave him and reject them. More, he has chosen to use deliberate lies to try and get others to follow his path into darkness and away from the fullness of the truth. He has violated sacred vows to God, have you?


201 posted on 07/18/2010 3:01:39 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: OpusatFR
It is not a matter of “version” nor “interpretation” of the scriptures we both use as they are in fact pretty much the same. It's how they are applied to support ones truth and or ones falsehood. So someone is wrong in how they are applying it.

There is nothing wrong with debating truth and falsehood...much is learned thru this process...but come to the table with an opinion and expect there will be differences in how scripture is 'applied'... The problem arises when you might see the truth and it disagrees with what Rome is telling you. That is the dilemma faced for catholics and of which this former Priests testimony reflects clearly.

The catholic church membership must abide and apply scripture by what Rome and the Pope determine. You are bound to that as you know. Non-catholics are Free to determine how they will apply scripture and of course there are those who abuse that freedom just as there is in any given area where freedom abounds. We see that in our country as well.

But no, I have not confirmed your statement by any means...it is how we differ in applying what we know to be true..but catholics must still abide by the dictates of the Pope and Rome...by what is true as well as how they apply it.

202 posted on 07/18/2010 3:04:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: wmfights
Because its in the book next to you in the seat. Buddy you don't sound true. You did notice its printed in the booklet in the pews. You know the booklets other people were reading from while the priest read. The Gospel is read to you. Yet you left that out of your comment. Here"s today's:

Gn 18:1-10a

The LORD appeared to Abraham by the terebinth of Mamre, as he sat in the entrance of his tent, while the day was growing hot. Looking up, Abraham saw three men standing nearby.

When he saw them, he ran from the entrance of the tent to greet them; and bowing to the ground, he said: Now that you have come this close to your servant, let me bring you a little food, that you may refresh yourselves; and afterward you may go on your way." The men replied, "Very well, do as you have said."

Abraham hastened into the tent and told Sarah, "Quick, three measures of fine flour! Knead it and make rolls." He ran to the herd, picked out a tender, choice steer, and gave it to a servant, who quickly prepared it.

Then Abraham got some curds and milk, as well as the steer that had been prepared, and set these before the three men;

and he waited on them under the tree while they ate. One of them said, "I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah will then have a son."

Ps 15:2-3, 3-4, 5

Responsorial Psalm

R. (1a) He who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord. One who walks blamelessly and does justice; who thinks the truth in his heart and slanders not with his tongue.

R. He who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord. Who harms not his fellow man, nor takes up a reproach against his neighbor; by whom the reprobate is despised, while he honors those who fear the LORD.

R. He who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord. Who lends not his money at usury and accepts no bribe against the innocent.

One who does these things shall never be disturbed. R. He who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord.

Col 1:24-28

Reading 2

Brothers and sisters: Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church,

of which I am a minister in accordance with God's stewardship given to me to bring to completion for you the word of God, the mystery hidden from ages and from generations past. But now it has been manifested to his holy ones,

to whom God chose to make known the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; it is Christ in you, the hope for glory. It is he whom we proclaim,

admonishing everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone perfect in Christ.

Lk 10:38-42 Gospel

Jesus entered a village where a woman whose name was Martha welcomed him. She had a sister named Mary who sat beside the Lord at his feet listening to him speak.

Martha, burdened with much serving, came to him and said, "Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me by myself to do the serving? Tell her to help me."

The Lord said to her in reply, "Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her."

203 posted on 07/18/2010 3:05:08 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: wmfights

” I have never met a RC that has a regular Bible study, or Bible group, at their home.”

Either a total lie, or you know almost no Catholic families.

Most members of the parish I belong to go to regular Bible study. They often will use great thinkers like Thomas Aquinas and his work to delve deeply into the Gospels they hear at daily Mass and they also look at how the Old Testament readings (plural) they hear daily relate to the Good News.


204 posted on 07/18/2010 3:05:49 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: cantabile

Did you read the article? Because if you did, it would be easy to understand what’s going on here on the religion forum. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that not only are beliefs of Roman Catholics and non-Catholics ‘different’, they are POLES apart. If you would care to share how you think they are similar, and how that could be our path to unity, please, by all means, tell. I’m interested in what you have to say.


205 posted on 07/18/2010 3:07:16 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: wmfights

Google answers the query:

illinois catholic bible study

About 234,000 results (0.24 seconds)

So that canard about Catholics not studying the Bible, even those trapped in your corrupt state, is clearly false.


206 posted on 07/18/2010 3:07:48 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: caww

Since Catholics refuse to believe the Protestants’ version of bible truth, we know Catholics do not read the bible according to MY interpretation.

You are still confirming this statement by saying:

“It’s how they are applied to support ones truth and or ones falsehood. So someone is wrong in how they are applying it.”

It’s YOUR interpretation.

We don’t believe YOUR interpretation therefore we are wrong.


207 posted on 07/18/2010 3:10:27 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: narses
great thinkers like Thomas Aquinas and his work to delve deeply into the Gospels they hear at daily Mass

How about great thinkers at the Bible study? Perhaps there is someone there who has in independent thought that the group could reflect on. Or at the end of the study, does everything get tied up in a neat Mass or Thomas Aquinas bow?

208 posted on 07/18/2010 3:14:18 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: narses

We have that beat in Virginia

Catholic bible study virginia

About 281,000 results (0.37 seconds)


209 posted on 07/18/2010 3:15:12 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: metmom

LOL...yes he did


210 posted on 07/18/2010 3:16:08 PM PDT by RnMomof7 ( sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

“Perhaps there is someone there who has in independent thought that the group could reflect on.”

And they get heard. If they propose goofy stuff like ordaining queers or allowing divorce or sodomy or infanticide (all now accepted in various of the protestant cults) they get told they are wrong though. How bout in your little group?


211 posted on 07/18/2010 3:17:30 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: cantabile
Do you think the deciples argued and debated in full view of the audience? I have learned over many years that oftentimes, in the real world, when there is a debate happening it is not the two or more debating the issue who is affected the most...rather the listeners to that debate.

There will always be those who falsely accuse...we are called to stand up to those accusations with the word of God. But you can never make someone believe...that is not your call. You can only present the evidence and then they are free to determine what they want to believe.

As far as unbelievers who might be observing....they will learn that when matters of life and death hang in the balance in a war of truth and falsehood there will indeed be battles and passionately so and as it should be. The name calling are just words and need to be ignored as they only evidence the inner battle raging, so identify it as so, or move into the next round.

Again the moderators are very clear about open religious threads getting hot and heavy and the thin skinned would do better at a devotional thread. They are wise to the arguments and what is at stake and generally know when things go too far...they are pretty thick skinned themselves so they ought to know what they are doing.

There is nothing “wrong” with those debating these issues...they are generally seasoned in their beliefs and the threads also provide opportunity for them to sharpen their stance for when they go out into the real world and face the powers that be.

I have fought in the front lines and in the enemies territory, you can believe the arguments here are certainly mild by comparison.

212 posted on 07/18/2010 3:19:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“... and of which this former Priests testimony reflects clearly.”

What is reflected is that he is a LIAR. You are grasping onto the ‘testimony” of a clear liar. Why? Are lies acceptable in your cult?


213 posted on 07/18/2010 3:19:10 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: OpusatFR

Hmph.


214 posted on 07/18/2010 3:19:40 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

We don’t have much time to reflect on those things. We are too busy STUDYING THE WORD OF GOD.


215 posted on 07/18/2010 3:20:21 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: metmom; pgkdan; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Fiction. For every story like this I can show you a hundred true testimonies of those who swam the Tiber and came home

Many are called, but few are chosen

MM, they do not understand this is not about "numbers" ..Truth is not determined by vote or plurally . Truth is truth even if only One person holds it ...

Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life.. not the Catholic church

216 posted on 07/18/2010 3:20:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7 ( sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)
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To: Binghamton_native; RnMomof7; wmfights; CWW
Good job putting up this link. I did some additional web research and found that “saying the Breviary” is a common term, and, in a Catholic Encyclopedia article about Savanarola, Dominicans are referred to as monks.

And that will be countered with *But that's not a "real" Catholic (fillintheblank).*

217 posted on 07/18/2010 3:22:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: pgkdan; metmom

Just because someone does not “like it” does not make it untrue ... It is true..just look at the posts.. the fear is palpable


218 posted on 07/18/2010 3:23:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Good for you. Sad that the soi-disant ‘clergy’ of the various protestant cults can’t find the time to actually read, understand and OBEY The Word. Does your cult allow divorce? Birth control? Abortion? Queer ‘weddings”? Women “pastors”?


219 posted on 07/18/2010 3:23:34 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: RnMomof7

“. the fear is palpable”

Snort, lol, rotflmao,

BWAHAHAHAHahahhahahahaahhaahhaaa.........

You are a hoot sister. What cult teaches you this stuff?


220 posted on 07/18/2010 3:24:31 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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