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Another vicious, inaccurate, and contradictory New York Times attack on Pope Benedict
catholicculture.org ^ | July 2, 2010 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 07/02/2010 6:56:08 PM PDT by Desdemona

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To: wmfights

Welllllllll

probably if your

white hanky’s

didn’t cover much,

you’d run for better cover, too.

LOL.


201 posted on 07/07/2010 9:48:23 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If I stood at the bedside of a newborn's mom and said "this little one will be with you until one of you leaves this earth",would it mean anything?

Or,if I told the little one "your mommy will be with you until one of you leaves this earth",would it mean anything?

Even if I concluded my happy talk with the statement that "all you need to do is believe", do you really think it's enough? And then when you extend that to include the supernatural world it gets too big to even imagine.

And that is why I am so grateful that Christ established a Church to protect the deposit of faith of our Triune God.

202 posted on 07/07/2010 10:20:32 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Even if I concluded my happy talk with the statement that "all you need to do is believe", do you really think it's enough?

And that is why I am so grateful that Christ established a Church to protect the deposit of faith of our Triune God.

What does that even mean, if you don't think Christ being with you for your entire life isn't enough?

Roman Catholics need to read the Bible.

I don't say "all you need to do is believe." Jesus Christ, second person of the Trinity; Son of God; Lord, Savior and Redeemer of the world; that is who says "all you need to do is believe."

The rest will all fall into place if you have been justified by the good shepherd. Trust in Christ alone, and the rest is easy.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

That is the instruction of Jesus Christ to you and me personally, specifically, immediately.

It is enough. It is everything.

203 posted on 07/07/2010 4:06:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wmfights
I'm not surprised most of the RC's run off to their caucus threads when I see comments about things being bigger than Jesus Christ being with us forever.

lol. Exactly right.

Obviously they are showing to the world that their superstitions and magick and empty rituals are even more important to them than Jesus Christ Himself.

When they talk like that it sure is easy to point out the error. They do it for us.

204 posted on 07/07/2010 4:10:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
When they talk like that it sure is easy to point out the error. They do it for us.

It is understandable why they hate Sola Scriptura so much.

205 posted on 07/07/2010 5:12:34 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Be not afraid,only believe."

We can both agree on that!!Although we may place what it means to us a little differently.

And,wasn't it Paul that said "I believe,I believe,Lord,help my unbelief"? What do you think he meant?

206 posted on 07/07/2010 5:14:51 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights

You both understood what was said there? I’ve read it 3 times and I still don’t get it/


207 posted on 07/07/2010 5:16:15 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: wmfights
I'm not surprised most of the RC's run off to their caucus threads when I see comments about things being bigger than Jesus Christ being with us forever.

Who is smarter - the monkey throwing excrement, or the person who leaves the cage?

208 posted on 07/07/2010 5:18:15 PM PDT by Hacksaw ("Don't march on Moscow"..)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; wmfights
Quix and wmfights,I am sorry I didn't ping you to my response to Dr.E. Please point out where I am wrong.

Dr. E,When they talk like that it sure is easy to point out the error. They do it for us.

I didn't find that you pointed out any error at all. You seem to be dealing with it piecemeal and I am reading the same thing in context.

209 posted on 07/07/2010 5:25:45 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Hacksaw; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights

hmmmm. I’ve read this one 3 times, too.


210 posted on 07/07/2010 5:26:12 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: saradippity

maybe after church if I have time and energy.

Heading there shortly.


211 posted on 07/07/2010 5:29:27 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; Dr. Eckleburg
You both understood what was said there? I’ve read it 3 times and I still don’t get it/

They are so caught up in their works theology that they can't accept that Jesus will be with you always if you're one of His. We are seeing The Gospel considered foolishness right before our eyes.

212 posted on 07/07/2010 5:31:37 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Thanks for the interpretation! I thought I was going mad...!


213 posted on 07/07/2010 5:33:06 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: saradippity
And,wasn't it Paul that said "I believe,I believe,Lord,help my unbelief"? What do you think he meant?

He meant all men are fallen and every day we battle our "old man" who still wants to sin by yielding to temptation. It's not easy to trust God 24/7 with all our whole heart. But that is the commandment and that is what we strive to do. If we are indwelled by the Holy Spirit, we will be able to trust in God to the saving of our souls. If not, we won't want to bother.

"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin...

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace...

Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." -- Romans 6:5-6,14,18

How are we "made free from sin" when we still sin every day, as John reminded us in 1 John 1:8?

By Christ dying in our place and taking on the punishment rightly due us so that we now stand before God acquitted of our sins by the faith, obedience and righteousness of Jesus Christ mercifully imputed to us.

"Be not afraid; only believe." We can both agree on that!! Although we may place what it means to us a little differently.

Where do you place it?

214 posted on 07/07/2010 5:35:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Hacksaw

I appreciate your saying that,I was going to continue posting despite the fact that I get tired of explaining or reading the same things explained over and over again to no avail. It may have more to do with a size,span and scope of our world views. Anyway I just may be finished for a while thanks to your little observation.


215 posted on 07/07/2010 5:36:13 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: wmfights; small voice in the wilderness
We are seeing The Gospel considered foolishness right before our eyes.

That is EXACTLY what is happening. Great observation, perfectly stated, William.

216 posted on 07/07/2010 5:39:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: saradippity; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
I didn't find that you pointed out any error at all.

Have you read post #203 and rejected it, or are you looking for a different response?

I'm sorry if some of us seem like we are posting in short hand. For Evangelicals Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior being with us forever is enough. We trust Him when He said,

John 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you know The Gospel?

217 posted on 07/07/2010 5:44:46 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: saradippity; wmfights; small voice in the wilderness; Quix
I didn't find that you pointed out any error at all.

Many Christians would be shocked to hear another Christian say it isn't enough to have Christ with them for their entire lives.

It's the "yes, but..." that has people puzzled.

There is no "yes, but..." if Christ is in you. There is theology. There is ecclesiocracy. There is correct worship.

But there is NOTHING more required for salvation than God's free, merciful, unearned gift of Jesus Christ within. That is EVERYTHING. That is what separates the sheep from the wolves; the acquitted from the condemned; the found from the lost.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved." -- Ephesians 1:4-6


218 posted on 07/07/2010 5:49:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

lolol. Maybe that was the point. It’s not easy shadow-boxing against confusion. 8~)


219 posted on 07/07/2010 5:51:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
AMEN!

we are saved, sealed and seated already in the heavenlies in Christ. We are blessed with all spiritual blessings in Christ! We are assured that we will be saved from the wrath to come.

Why wouldn't this be enough for anyone?

220 posted on 07/07/2010 5:57:17 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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