Posted on 06/26/2010 10:13:41 AM PDT by restornu
The LDS claim they are saved by grace “AFTER ALL THEY CAN DO”.
Isn’t that true of anyone? If I am as perfect as I can be I still will never make it into Heaven on my own. No one is perfect, just Jesus Christ.
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AT THE VERY LEAST! YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW INSULTING THAT IS TO CHRIST, DO YOU??!?!?!?!?!? It is not ‘the very least’ it is ALL we can do. To say otherwise is to say Christ’s sacrifice wasn’t enough and we have to do ‘more’ to be saved. That is disgusting.
At the very least I have to accept him as my personal Savior. How do I do that and then do nothing. The whole works/grace argument is ridiculous.
Accepting Jesus’ Grace leads to works - good works. How could it be otherwise?
Christians recognize that they can DO NOTHING. You apparently don’t get that either.
Pity, Hell is a very hot place and that is where you are headed.
That's what the LDS say.
Well He does say His ways are past finding out,... and yet despite our limits I think He expands these as He reveals His truth to those who seek it. Then of course their are those who won't get it because He chooses not to reveal it to them.... Some things are reserved for those who belong to Him.
You know that isn't true. Isn't Jesus that Lamb? The Lamb of God? That's the last living sacrifice that will ever be made as a sin offering.
Come on, don't muddy up the waters. They're cloudy enough.
You reveal your motives pretty clearly in this post.....
It’s closer than you realize, but that’s how big game hunting goes. They don’t know it, til it’s too late. ;-]
Absolutely, but without someone to teach me how can I know? You need a priesthood and a church structure the NT is clear on that and the Catholics get it.
Why does any organization keep track of “dues”.....one would wonder if the Mormon Church isn’t something other than a church.
You mean it wasn’t obvious the entire time that I am pointing out hypocrisy and circular logic? ;-]
Goodnight. Let’s pick this up tomorrow!
NOPE. It goes beyond the 10 commandments, it goes to motivation. The LDS are legalists who feel it is a duty rather than an offering of love. But the LDS don't get that either.
go and sin no more? That’s works for certain.
EPIC fail. That isn't works. That is not taking forgiveness for granted. HUGE Difference.
My Dear Lady, you know so little of Hell. Use your language skills and study it. Don’t go by what you’ve been told or taught. Search the Scriptures; check the context.
Christ can speak for himself. You don’t have any right to be insulted for him and that is no insult to him.
No one steps foot into Heaven, but by the Grace of Christ. Christians, to be Christians, can and must do something. Someone taught you that Christians can do nothing. The Bible doesn’t teach that at all.
That’s eisegesis. Doctrine, then finding the proof is eisegesis. Just read it with an open mind. You’ll be startled at the conclusions you’ll reach. Few have the courage to embrace the truth no matter where it leads.
You should try it.
Again, no one steps foot into Heaven, but by the Grace of Christ. That doesn’t eliminate works at all.
Have a good night, Sister. I’m bushed. We can pick it up tomorrow. Best regards.
Let’s withhold judgment until Restornu answers. I’ll not ascribe motive. That’s not fair.
That’s parsing and dissembling and someone taught you that.
Bookmarking for tomorrow, even though it is tomorrow. ;-]
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Uncle Remus...
Well actually it's the most you can do. Without Him any works we do is as "filthy rags" is His sight. But if one is a Christian and 'follows' Christ certain attributes, behavior, and actions become apparent as He lives His life thru us...as we're conformed to His image. This happens because of the relationship we share with Him. How we view life, how we determine our life filters thru Him. The natural outcome is that our life then reflects His goodness...NOT our works.
Interesting response...appears you might be dodging the issue, however I would hesitate to agree that Mormons say that, perhaps it is your interpretation of what they say...... but I can certainly attest that Christians do say so for it is based on the fact Christ did indeed take His disciples aside and indeed revealed to their understanding what He had spoken of...and He does to this day. An example today would be how years ago the prophetic books were difficult to understand....of course now we understand far more as technology, science, archeology etc, has revealed so much more than we knew before. These have assisted in our understanding and much more of the times and places scripturally.
Circular logic? Not at all...tomorrow then.
You are very sadly mistaken. I did use my language skills and my own research, not going by what I was told or taught. That is how I got OUT of Mormonism.
But apparently your mind is made up, so I will not bother with you anymore.
Your pride is what will keep you out of Heaven. That is the root of Mormonism.
BTW, since you are not a Christian, I am not your ‘sister’.
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