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Ananias and Sapphira, Original Sin in the Church:-TITHING
Houston Catholic Worker, ^ | Vol. XXII, No. 7, December 2002. | by Jorge Domínguez Rojo

Posted on 06/26/2010 10:13:41 AM PDT by restornu

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To: Vendome

Why doesn’t God give JR a grammar checker?

Lamb in a wine reduction and rosemary would be so delicious.

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201 posted on 06/29/2010 10:19:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
reason why Jesus is called the Lamb of God

Excellent clarification on the Trinity. If it were Biblical the Bible would read: "the Lamb of Himself".

202 posted on 06/29/2010 10:21:15 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: ejonesie22

Now wait a minute. Reaganaut stated that she pays more than 10% of her income. Why would someone do that unless they felt some need?

These people did it of their own free will. No one made them (or is the story your quoting missing some parts? Did the people later admit to being compelled?)

We need to have respect for conscience. Let’s not pretzel up the subject. A free will offering is just that. No ones is better or worse than someone else’s.

Furthermore, this is not a game to be “played along”.


203 posted on 06/29/2010 10:24:19 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
So you are saying the LDS did not accept the dental work as payment for a temple?

Like I said obviously that is ok in your book...

As far as “personal”, I take such acts very personally. As a Christian taking advantage of the poor is the exact opposite of what we do.

204 posted on 06/29/2010 10:25:34 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: 1010RD

I try and I am half asleep. LOL


205 posted on 06/29/2010 10:25:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Godzilla

Context is our friend, but so is a good translation.

Take a second look at Acts 5:2. It reads in Greek a share or portion was brought.

You have to give the LDS their due. When they get it right you have to admit it.

Their interpretation is not outside a reasonable reading of the passage.

Let’s avoid eisegeis and read it with an open mind.


206 posted on 06/29/2010 10:30:01 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

So how is it the LDS don’t make it into Heaven? Don’t they just do what minimum Christians do, only more?

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It has NOTHING to do with works. They don’t go to heaven because they add works to Grace. It is ALL grace. Works are evidence of Salvation, not a prerequisite.

The LDS put their faith in things in ADDITION to Christ (the LDS laundry list of requirements). It isn’t about doing the ‘minimum’ it is about realizing you can DO NOTHING, except surrender.

But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. (Romans 11:6)


207 posted on 06/29/2010 10:34:10 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Godzilla

probably a good idea.


208 posted on 06/29/2010 10:34:40 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: ejonesie22; reaganaut

Don’t dissemble e22. You attacked with the “takes” angle. The LDS accepted a free will offering. Why is that worse than Reaganaut’s church accepting her giving even more than 10% of her income.

After taxes she may be losing a net 50% of income that’s a lot. She might already be poor.

That those Christians gave to their church doesn’t make it wrong. A Christian can give what they want to their church. They have their free will. Why would Christians judge Christians? Aren’t both giving what they think is best and right?

R - I included you in this post and a previous post. In the previous post I inadvertently didn’t include you. Sorry.


209 posted on 06/29/2010 10:34:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
That any human being could even attempt to defend such actions boggles my mind.

The simple and tragic fact is that educated well off people took advantage of poorer less education souls. If they had a shred of human decency they would have refused the first gift as soon as it was offered, help those individuals regain their comfort and insisted that such sacrifice was totally unneeded...

Save your fancy well practiced words, wrong is wrong, period. There is not enough lip stick in the world to pretty up this sorry sow...

210 posted on 06/29/2010 10:36:41 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: reaganaut; restornu

OK, my understanding of LDS beliefs is that they accept Grace as well. No one gets into Heaven without the Grace of Jesus Christ. They simply add works.

At a minimum they’re covered by Grace.

If you’re wrong you’ll not have completed any works. Or maybe you will have and you just didn’t realize it.

I don’t know.


211 posted on 06/29/2010 10:37:46 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Tithing was part of the “Law”, the Law that was fulfilled in Christ.Nonsense. Which of the Ten Commandments can I break?

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None of them. The 10 commandments are ALL covered under the two Christ gave (Love your God and love your neighbor as yourself).


212 posted on 06/29/2010 10:37:56 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: 1010RD

When was the last time you sacrificed a spotless lamb on the altar of the temple?


213 posted on 06/29/2010 10:38:40 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Vendome

Lamb in a wine reduction and rosemary would so delicious.

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Yum!


214 posted on 06/29/2010 10:39:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: Vendome

I’m off to bed, but when they try to prove the Trinity is Biblical that’s when I get sleepy.

I once had a fellow tell me their were thousands of verses that support the Trinity.

I told him - pick your best three.

He gave me one, which I shredded to bits and I never heard from him again.

The irony of it all.


215 posted on 06/29/2010 10:39:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Vendome

I’m off to bed, but when they try to prove the Trinity is Biblical that’s when I get sleepy.

I once had a fellow tell me there were thousands of verses that support the Trinity.

I told him - pick your best three.

He gave me one, which I shredded to bits and I never heard from him again.

The irony of it all.


216 posted on 06/29/2010 10:40:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; Godzilla

Tithing means nothing unless its from the heart. There’s a scripture to support it. Please don’t ask me to find it.


217 posted on 06/29/2010 10:41:10 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: 1010RD; ejonesie22

Now wait a minute. Reaganaut stated that she pays more than 10% of her income. Why would someone do that unless they felt some need?

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Why not ask me?

I give because I CHOOSE to give. I am not under compulsion.


218 posted on 06/29/2010 10:41:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: 1010RD; Vendome

John 1:1


219 posted on 06/29/2010 10:42:07 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: reaganaut

So the Law still exists then, no?

It’s just been summarized. The subheading for love God and love his children would include the Ten Commandments.

Don’t idolize, don’t envy, don’t murder, don’t steal, etc.

All are still active, just in slightly altered form.

I think the LDS have a lot of Biblical support that isn’t given the credit it deserves. What happens when they get stuff right?


220 posted on 06/29/2010 10:42:53 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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