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| 6/13/2010
Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: MarkBsnr
First of all I don't respond well to commands like “Show me....Show me...”, But I'll overlook it since it takes so little effort. You can go to Hebrews where Paul is positively effusive with quotes from God in support of his writings, Chapter 3, 4, and 8 make a good start.
Or maybe 2 Cor. chapter 12 where God tell Paul that Paul is going to have to deal with his infirmity. He makes a direct quote in vs. 9.
Next (sighs deeply as even the...never mind...)Next!
1,821
posted on
06/24/2010 9:24:45 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: small voice in the wilderness
You know that isn't true, you've been given the scripture before. Stop with the feigned ignorance. It doesn't become you. Fine. Produce the Scripture that says what you say it means. I say that you cannot. You did not do it before, and I do not believe that you can do it now. Scripture is consistent. The children of the Reformation are not.
I will determine what becomes me. As well, I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you. Put up the Scripture that says what you say it says for the RF to evaluate. If you can.
1,822
posted on
06/24/2010 9:24:56 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: MarkBsnr; count-your-change; metmom; Diamond; Quix; small voice in the wilderness; Dr. Eckleburg; ..
Show me where Paul quotes God in support of any of his writings.
The certification:
But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called [me] by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. Galatians 1:11-19
To God be the glory, not man, never man!
To: count-your-change
Fine. Let us go to the heart of the matter. John quotes God liberally. So do the rest of the Gospel writers in terms of their beliefs. Where does Paul lay out his revelation in terms of Christian beliefs? Where are the quotes from God? What is Paul’s revelation? Where is it? Where are the supporting quotes from God?
1,824
posted on
06/24/2010 9:28:51 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Alamo-Girl
Umm, this is not a quote from God.
1,825
posted on
06/24/2010 9:30:00 PM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
Excellent, of course.
These assaults on Paul are mystifying to me.
Do folks not READ the New Testament or do they believe they have the personal
option
of tearing parts out of it???
I love Paul’s letters. He’s been through it going and coming from most perspectives . . . OUTRAGEOUSLY DESTRUCTIVE TO GOD AND GOD’S PEOPLE RELIGIOUS FANATIC, prisoner; shipwrecked; Apostle . . . ‘chiefest of sinners.’
He really demonstrates in all his writings in the NT that
HE KNEW GOD
AND
HE KNEW MAN—THE GOOD AND THE BAD AND THE ABSOLUTE ESSENTIALNESS OF FAITH IN GOD BEFORE ALL ELSE AND ABOVE ALL ELSE.
He also had the top priorities well in hand—LOVING GOD TOTALLY; OTHERS AS SELF AND DOING UNTO OTHERS . . .
imho, those who throw rocks at Paul are only throwing boomerang rocks. They don’t phase Paul a bit. They will, however, land with a thud back at their origin, in due course.
1,826
posted on
06/24/2010 9:33:16 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: Judith Anne; Quix
Here’s some friendly advice, don’t post to him or about him and he probably wont feel the need to post back to you in response. But do what you want, it’s a free country, for now.
1,827
posted on
06/24/2010 9:35:15 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
To: Alamo-Girl
DENIAL
that Scripture is a quote from God . . . is amazing, to me.
I thought even most rabid clique Roman Catholics considered all Scripture to be INSPIRED, INSCRIPTURATED COMMUNICATIONS FROM GOD.
Goodness! Dreadful.
1,828
posted on
06/24/2010 9:35:25 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: boatbums
OF COURSE!
You are exceedingly right or you’ve noticed! LOL.
However, expecting folks of the rabid cliques to be logical, rational and sensible is a dubious expectation at best.
Thx.
1,829
posted on
06/24/2010 9:37:02 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: boatbums
I think such goings on remind me of a common playground event . . .
a cluster of kids will be playing say in the sandbox.
A prissy little spoiled brat of a girl with lots of angst, brittleness, anger etc. comes up and proceeds to try and force the group to conform to her image, totally meet her needs, do things totally her way. After some minutes they get fed up and either eject her or storm off leaving her behind. Of course, she then wails to high heaven about how horrible THEY were TO HER! Sheesh.
1,830
posted on
06/24/2010 9:39:38 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: MarkBsnr
You asked where Paul quotes God in support of any of his writings and in the certification passage, Paul avers that the gospel he preached was received directly from Christ, i.e. he is repeating what he heard and/or was told to say. Christ certified His words in the same way:
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. - John 12:49-50
God's Name is I AM.
To: Quix
Truly, it is a major difference that one side receives the revelation of God in Scripture as a brane (i.e. an object of any number of dimensions) - and the other sees it as a pyramid.
To: Quix
"A prissy little spoiled brat of a girl with lots of angst, brittleness, anger etc. comes up and proceeds to try and force the group to conform to her image, totally meet her needs, do things totally her way. After some minutes they get fed up and either eject her or storm off leaving her behind. Of course, she then wails to high heaven about how horrible THEY were TO HER! Sheesh." And then the next thing you know is there is a huge multicolored PowerPoint like posting filled with meaningless cliches and anti-Catholic rhetoric posted all over Free Republic.
1,833
posted on
06/24/2010 9:46:56 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Catholiphobia is a mental illness.)
To: Alamo-Girl
Fascinating.
Perhaps you’d be willing to elaborate with those illustrations in this area of things.
I’m having trouble guessing which would represent which. Maybe I can think of too many possibilities on all sides. LOL.
1,834
posted on
06/24/2010 9:48:54 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: Quix
UNMITIGATED BEARING FALSE WITNESS That's a nice way of calling me a liar.
AGAINST EVERY PENTECOSTAL AND BAPTIST I KNOW.
I wasn't talking about every Pentecostal and Baptist you know.
To: Alamo-Girl
"Truly, it is a major difference that one side receives the revelation of God in Scripture as a brane (i.e. an object of any number of dimensions) - and the other sees it as a pyramid." It was highly Freudian that you referred to different sides rather than dogmatic differences among brother Christians.
1,836
posted on
06/24/2010 9:49:57 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Catholiphobia is a mental illness.)
To: MarkBsnr
No, not fine at all. Twice you make statements about lack of quotes and twice I provide them...in sufficiency to to show you were wrong, now you say you want Paul's revelation.
What did Paul write? and why should I do for you what you can easily do for yourself?
Let's indeed go to heart of the matter. Paul doesn't support the teachings of the Catholic church so he's “incomplete” or lacking “quotes” or some other fabricated deficiency.
Isn't THAT the “heart of the matter”?
1,837
posted on
06/24/2010 9:50:00 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: MarkBsnr
No, not fine at all. Twice you make statements about lack of quotes and twice I provide them...in sufficiency to to show you were wrong, now you say you want Paul's revelation.
What did Paul write? and why should I do for you what you can easily do for yourself?
Let's indeed go to heart of the matter. Paul doesn't support the teachings of the Catholic church so he's “incomplete” or lacking “quotes” or some other fabricated deficiency.
Isn't THAT the “heart of the matter”?
1,838
posted on
06/24/2010 9:50:12 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Natural Law
Flattery usually doesn’t do much for me. LOL.
Too many people have sincere things to say to me plenty often.
1,839
posted on
06/24/2010 9:50:22 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: count-your-change
Does this count as two responses?
1,840
posted on
06/24/2010 9:51:50 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(Catholiphobia is a mental illness.)
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