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The Origin of Man - Mormon (OPEN)
Ensign Magazine, From Improvement Era, Nov. 1909 ^ | Feb 2002 | First Presidency

Posted on 05/21/2010 8:22:46 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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1 posted on 05/21/2010 8:22:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/21/2010 8:23:17 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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To: greyfoxx39

KANE COUNTY UTAH PING

3 posted on 05/21/2010 8:27:25 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 84 Miles North of Lake Powell)
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God Himself is an exalted man, perfected, enthroned, and supreme.

Whence came this "exalted man"? Obviously not from this world, which He ostensibly created. So there must have been another world which birthed this man who was later exalted.

So then we ask ourselves, who created this other world?

The God of these gentlemen is most decidedly not my God. My God was never exalted, but always was--the source of all things yet who has no source Himself.

5 posted on 05/21/2010 8:36:06 AM PDT by Claud
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To: greyfoxx39

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Well at least you’ve got guts.


6 posted on 05/21/2010 8:37:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: greyfoxx39

(Disclaimer: I am former LDS and “anti” mormonism.)

Never mind my previous.


7 posted on 05/21/2010 8:37:56 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Utah Binger
Hey now! That there is COLORCOUNTRY
8 posted on 05/21/2010 8:41:04 AM PDT by colorcountry ("Showing mercy to the wolves is showing cruelty to the sheep." - Unknown)
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To: colorcountry

“You know that there is something special about Color Country”...yes indeedy! ;)


9 posted on 05/21/2010 8:45:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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To: colorcountry

“You know that there is something special about Color Country”...yes indeedy! ;)


10 posted on 05/21/2010 8:45:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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To: Grunthor
Never mind my previous.

It still takes guts...but we got 'em.

11 posted on 05/21/2010 8:49:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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To: colorcountry

ColorCountry: An American Beauty

12 posted on 05/21/2010 8:52:25 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 84 Miles North of Lake Powell)
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To: greyfoxx39
Here's your sign.


13 posted on 05/21/2010 8:52:32 AM PDT by colorcountry ("Showing mercy to the wolves is showing cruelty to the sheep." - Unknown)
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The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam a quickening spirit.

Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual,
but that which is natural;
and afterward that which is spiritual.

The first man is of the earth, earthy:
the second man is the Lord from heaven.


14 posted on 05/21/2010 8:57:07 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: colorcountry

LOL...thanks.


15 posted on 05/21/2010 9:06:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have discovered Campbell's Senior alphabet soup....it comes in large type.!)
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From the article: Adam, our first progenitor, “the first man,” was, like Christ, a preexistent spirit, and like Christ he took upon him an appropriate body...

So per Mormonism, the key initial distinction between Adam and Christ is that Christ was born first in the spirit birth order...Had Adam been born first, he would have been our Savior...

Or if Lucifer, who was apparently second in the spirit birth order behind Jesus...had Lucifer been born first...then Lucifer could have been the Mormon's "savior" of the world.

Just remember that the next time a Mormon says that Jesus is our "elder brother." Because when you ask them, and I have, some Mormons have actually admitted to me that, yes, Satan is my "elder brother," too.

It's all linked back to the unique Mormon doctrine of pre-existent spirits -- and reducing Jesus to our level in the presence of God before the earth was populated.

16 posted on 05/21/2010 10:35:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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So per Mormonism, the key initial distinction between Adam and Christ is that Christ was born first in the spirit birth order...Had Adam been born first, he would have been our Savior...

Which brings up an interesting parallel question - Why didn't Jesus become the first man? As the first born wouldn't he have had that perrogative? Since he was on the mormon fast track to godhood, that would have permitted him to meet the eternal principles, etc required for exultation.

And what was Adam's status? Was the then the 3d born?

17 posted on 05/21/2010 11:17:14 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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And what was Adam's status?

Why, per Brigham Young, Adam was God!!! Brigham taught it for over 25 years!!!

And the Mormons "honored" their Adam-is-God "prophet" by naming their most pretigious university after him!

(You haven't heard Mormons label Brigham a "false prophet" over this, have you? I haven't. That must mean that if Brigham was teaching the core identity of God for 25 years, and he didn't retract it, and Mormons haven't labelled it a false teaching, that it must be a "true" Mormon teaching)

18 posted on 05/21/2010 11:30:22 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Why, per Brigham Young, Adam was God!!! Brigham taught it for over 25 years!!!

Of course, how silly of me to forget. But given that the doctrine has been downgraded to a theory (and perhaps a personal opinion by this time), I still wonder - were the first humans the most valiant of the band (then why did God have to have a flood to deal with their evil later). Inquiring minds want to know.

19 posted on 05/21/2010 11:38:59 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Claud

The Mormon god comes from an infinite “line” of gods. There must be billions of them.


20 posted on 05/21/2010 7:14:25 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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