The Seven Year Peace Treaty in Israel Has Been Signed.......... |

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/34247/The_Seven_Year_Peace_Treaty_in_Israel_Has_Been_Signed.html ^ | April 18th, 2010

[Genoa]

I’m betting he’s postmillennial.

[RJR_fan]

Using God's Word as a ouija board to predict the future is an exercise in futility that only serves to make the gospel look fatuous, inane, and totally irrelevant.

For some reason, the fortune tellers who treat God's Word as a reeking heap of entrails, rather than as His instruction manual for "life, the universe, and everything," always seem to read the same message: brace yourself for the global triumph of evil! Whoopee! beak out the popcorn!

[Genoa]

The world is getting better and better as the church marches toward global victory?

[camerongood210]

One big question in my mind is under what circumstances the Islamofascists would tolerate a Temple of any kind on that piece of real estate.

I've had that thought as well. My best guess is that there will be some sort of "land-for-peace" deal.

[Genoa]

Must be one sweet deal!!!

[Godzilla]

One big question in my mind is under what circumstances the Islamofascists would tolerate a Temple of any kind on that piece of real estate.

Hypothetically, if the Ez 38 war occurs as some think, prior to the rapture and the earthly return of the Lord (and perhaps prior to the 7yr agreement) - then a considerable portion of islam will have been hammered hard - giving temporary breathing room for a temple to be constructed.

[camerongood210]

Agreed. That’s just my guess. Going back to the timeline of construction thing...it took a little over a year to build the Empire State building. From what I’ve seen, it took 1 year and 45 days to build it. With the advancements in construction technology since then, it is not a wild idea to rebuild the temple in a year or less.

[dartuser]

How about in their zeal to destroy Israel, one of those brain dead Hezbos takes out the Dome of the Rock with one of their newly acquired scud missiles.

How funny would that be ...

[TaraP]

You are confusing GOD’s word of *Prophecy* for some New Age Fortune Telling...

What did Jesus say about Hypocrties and Signs of the times?

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” (II Pet. 3:3-4)

[Genoa]

Is that RJR as in Rousas John Rushdoony?

[camerongood210]

I read a book a year or so ago that contends Islam’s Mahdi will also be the AC. Muslims will embrace the Mahdi as their savior. Under Islamic theology, the world has to be in a state of chaos for the Mahdi to appear. We are moving toward that as we speak and there are world leaders who are actively working to those ends (i.e. Ammanutjob). If the Mahdi and the AC are indeed one in the same, then perhaps he could convince Muslims it is in their best interest to allow the reconstruction.

[David]

Well I agree with your title proposition to this extent--I think it is not impossible that the 7 year agreement has in fact been executed and that the term is in process. I would argue that there is some uncertainty where we are on the seven year time line since the word translated "confirm" may not mean "entered into".

I further agree strongly with your proposition that construction of a new Temple is not required before the sacrifical worship system can be resumed. That, however, has not happened yet.

You incorrectly identify the place of origin of the prince. 9:26 is translated by King James, "the people of the prince to come will destroy the city and the temple". The word translated "people" is the Hebrew word "yam" which has a literal dictionary definition--"tribal or ethnic group"; so properly translated, that phrase in 9:26 should say "the tribal or ethnic group of the prince to come will destroy . . . "

The identity of the tribal or ethnic group which destroyed the city and temple in 70 AD is of course clearly identified by a number of historical sources. Tacitus, in the Histories identifies them specifically as an army raised by levies on the local (Assyrian) kings. Roman discharge records of the Legions involved make it clear that with the exception of Titus (the 24 year old son of Flavus Titus Vespaisian, the emperor) and a few officers, there were no Western Europeans involved. Josephus describes a number of incidents that take place in connection with the destruction identifying the participants by name and the place of their origin--all come from identifiable historical areas in Assyria.

No doubt--the Prince is an Assyrian.

The fourth empire was located and governed in Western Europe only for a short part of its total history--as you recognize, for most of its history including the last thousand years, it was located in the Middle East with its capitol at Constantinople.

Now sure, the ten nations might have appeared in Western Europe but in the current context, that no longer appears likely for several reasons.

The eleventh horn, or nation, of Daniel 7:8 is "among" but "diverse from" (7:24) the ten nations.

I suggest to you that it is much more reasonable to look for the ten horns where the beast was last seen, particularly in light of a couple of other considerations.

For one thing, the Anti-Christ must be seen as "coming from out of Bethlehem where David was" which is not in Western Europe. And the Prince of Daniel 9:26, presumably the Anti-Christ, is an Assyrian.

Looking at the ten nations out of the Eastern Empire: Turkey, Israel, Syria, Jorden, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Lebenon, Egypt, Kuwait, and Tunisia, there is today, an eleventh nation living among them which is ethnically diverse from the population of the nations. That nation has its own government, legislative body, judicial system, military, and the like and we call it the "Palestinians".

By the terms of the Interim Agreement (a seven year agreement by its terms, performance of which may not yet have comenced and which has not yet been discernably confirmed), seven nations on the West Bank were set over for Civil Administration to the Palestinian Authority (one of which cities is Bethlehem).

The Anti Christ ("I who come in the name of the father they have rejected but he who comes in his own name they will accept") must be a Jew. So we are not surprised to find a Jew in civil administration on the west bank in a position to be the head (one of the 7 heads of Revelation 13) of Bethlehem.

This individual is an ethnic Assyrian, born in the area south of Damascus in modern Syria to which Shalamaniser removed the tribe of Dan ("Dan thou art a viper") in 724 BC.

[Genoa]

Yes, keep a close watch on Nutjob.

[camerongood210]

Indeed. This is a little off topic, but what are the chances that those scuds were originally owned by Iraq? IIRC, there were people who argued Sadaam sent his WMD’s to Syria prior to the ‘03 invasion. I know scuds don’t qualify as WMD’s, but it’s just a thought.

[NavyCanDo]

By the way TaraP. Here is a GREAT video for you to rent or buy. Recomended to me by another Freeper, now I pass it on to you. You cannot watch this and come away thinking creation was just a cosmic accident. The cinematography is as good or even better than anything out of Hollywood.

GOD of Wonders

http://www.godofwondersvideo.org/

[xjcsa]

Full or partial?

Full.

[TaraP]

Thanks!

I appreciate it!

Tara

[hiredhand]

From - http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/ENPa.html

Titled -

European Neighbourhood Policy
A Brief Summary of Important Points
A Progressive Seven-Year Accord Involving Israel
Finalized: October 2006 | In Effect: 1 January 2007


24 October 2006

European Neighbourhood and Partnership Instrument: Israel

“Relations between the EU and Israel are also part of the Union’s wider efforts to contribute to a resolution of the Middle East conflict. The achievement of lasting peace in the Middle East is a central aim of the EU, whose main objective is a two-State solution leading to a final and comprehensive settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict based on implementation of the Road Map, with Israel and a democratic, viable, peaceful and sovereign Palestinian State living side-by-side in peace within secure and recognised borders and enjoying normal relations with their neighbours.”

[RJR_fan]

You have plowed with my heifer and unraveled my riddle?

Isn't it sad to see so many of God's people barking up the wrong trees, and setting themselves up as fortune tellers, turning red heifers into red herrings!

[Uri’el-2012]

I have it on good authority the the newly formed Sanhedrin
has celebrated a Korban Pesach this past Pesach.

The first since 70 CE

An altar made from uncut stones is being assembled near Jericho.

It was dedicated this past Tisha B'av.

Tisha B'av was auspicious as it was the date of the destruction of the Temple in 70CE.

At some time in the near future the altar will be moved to the temple mount.

The first Korban Pesach was during the Exodus.

Yah'shua presented Himself as the Korban Pesach to cover our sins.

Look up ! Yah'shua is coming very soon !

In order for the Evil One
to end regular sacrifice
at the middle of the tribulation,
it must start;

Daniel 9: 26 "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.
27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

Daniel 11: 31 "Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation.

Daniel 12: 9 He said, "Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.
10 "Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.
11 "From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
12 "How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

Regular Passover sacrifice will be restarting after 1940 years.

The Sanhedrin is planning to restart the sacrifice of Lambs at Passover this year.

See Korban Pesach

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach