Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sociologist compares today's crisis to Nazi smear campaign
National Catholic Reporter ^ | 4/17/2010 | John L. Allen

Posted on 04/17/2010 5:46:07 AM PDT by markomalley

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-91 next last
To: MarkBsnr
Your posts do not indicate that. Your expressed concept of Jesus is foreign to Christianity.

As I said, darkness cannot comprehend light.

61 posted on 04/17/2010 2:45:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I comprehend it just fine, thanks."

If you interpret "alter Christus" as "another Christ" you are demonstrating that whatever hypothetical doctorate you have certainly isn't in Latin, English, or theology. Flee from the stupidity.

62 posted on 04/17/2010 2:46:45 PM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
As I said, darkness cannot comprehend light.

When you take off the Calvinist dark glasses, you may be welcomed into Christianity. Until then, there is no hope:

Titus 2: 11 2 For the grace of God has appeared, saving all 12 and training us to reject godless ways and worldly desires and to live temperately, justly, and devoutly in this age, 13 as we await the blessed hope, the appearance 3 of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to deliver us from all lawlessness and to cleanse for himself a people as his own, eager to do what is good.

We Christians wait in hope. We are not heretics who claim our own salvation.

63 posted on 04/17/2010 2:48:48 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
If you interpret "alter Christus" as "another Christ" you are demonstrating that whatever hypothetical doctorate you have certainly isn't in Latin, English, or theology. Flee from the stupidity.

ROTFLOL.

I'm just following what Roman Catholics on this forum have told us hundreds of times and post in Roman Catholic caucus threads. Perhaps you don't read them. Here's one that clearly tells us that the papacy teaches "alter Christus" means "another Christ."

THE AMAZING GIFT OF THE PRIESTHOOD

"...Simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with — both in his official ministry and in his personal life..."

I'm more than happy to "flee from this stupidity" but Roman Catholics keep posting it and elevating it to the status of Biblical truth when, in fact, it is a lie from the pit of hell and condemns all those who believe it.

64 posted on 04/17/2010 2:55:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: albie

Like Alinsky, Mikhail Gorbachev followed Gramsci, not Lenin. In fact, Gramsci aroused Stalins’s wrath by suggesting that Lenin’s revolutionary plan wouldn’t work in the West. Instead the primary assault would be on Biblical absolutes and Christian values, which must be crushed as a social force before the new face of Communism could rise and flourish.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm


65 posted on 04/17/2010 3:01:03 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I'm just following what Roman Catholics on this forum have told us hundreds of times and post in Roman Catholic caucus threads..."

There is another Latin phrase you need to become familiar with; nihil obstat. You cannot represent anything as the position of the Catholic Church without it. It would be exactly like you claiming the existence of glatt kosher pork rinds because someone posted it on the internet.

66 posted on 04/17/2010 3:01:51 PM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law

No, I got that opinion from a variety of posts Roman Catholic apologists write which concern “penis envy...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2410209/posts?page=785#785

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2410209/posts?page=805#805

lol. Seems to be catching.


67 posted on 04/17/2010 3:02:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
Amen. And the One who takes Christ's place here on earth, the true Vicar, is no pope, or other imposter, but the Holy Spirit
68 posted on 04/17/2010 3:02:20 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings
And the One who takes Christ's place here on earth, the true Vicar, is no pope, or other imposter, but the Holy Spirit

AMEN!

How simple is that to understand?

Apparently not so simple when a dying edifice of superstition wrongly insists Mary, assorted dead people and men who consider themselves to be "another Christ" usurp the office and function of the Holy Spirit.

69 posted on 04/17/2010 3:09:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
So Father Baker was wrong? And all those Roman Catholic posters on that thread were also wrong to agree with Father Baker?

lol.

70 posted on 04/17/2010 3:11:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg; the_conscience
Pope no like you


71 posted on 04/17/2010 3:12:33 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
"So Father Baker was wrong? And all those Roman Catholic posters on that thread were also wrong to agree with Father Baker?"

Do you realize how foolish you, a non-Catholic with absolutely no Catholic education, appear when trying to argue the meaning of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and its dogma with life long, university educated Catholics base upon what you got off the internet?

Unlike your cult we don't all get together to vote on what things mean nor do we take the go it alone approach that you seem to be so fond of. Just because a single priest or even a majority of Catholics believe something to be the position of the Church doesn't make it so. That is why I advised you to become familiar with nilil obstat.

72 posted on 04/17/2010 3:17:55 PM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
That's right. No one but a church scholar or a papist theologian can understand the written word or the Bible or even a simple paragraph on an internet chat room.

lol. Thank God for eyes to see.

73 posted on 04/17/2010 3:19:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings

lol. That emperor’s got no clothes on.


74 posted on 04/17/2010 3:21:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings

AHHH!!! THE EYES!!!


75 posted on 04/17/2010 3:54:24 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg
"lol. That emperor’s got no clothes on."

And you could be the first female Reichbishop.

76 posted on 04/18/2010 9:53:23 PM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Men are called to become LIKE Christ.
Men are not called to become Christ.”

You seem to have over-stated your position here.
“All of you are Christ’s body, and each one is a part of it.” 1 Cor 12:27


77 posted on 04/19/2010 3:46:14 AM PDT by mah11
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: mah11
You seem to have over-stated your position here. “All of you are Christ’s body, and each one is a part of it.” 1 Cor 12:27

RCCs misunderstand Scripture at their peril. Paul likewise tells us...

"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." -- Romans 12:5

By your false line of thinking, Paul here is telling us you are me and I am you.

And that's not what he's saying at all.

Men are the lively stones who make up the church; Christ is the cornerstone of the church. Men are called to become Christ-like; we do not become Christ. The arrogance of the RCC knows no bounds.

"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" -- Colossians 1:26-27

Men are mortal, physical, temporal. Christ is divine, spiritual and eternal.

But this confusing the spiritual with the physical has always been Rome's most profound error as it seeks to make men into mini-gods who wrongly presume they can keep the law perfectly.

Only Christ can keep the law perfectly and He graciously does this for us because we can't.

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you" -- 2 Corinthians 13:5

See the difference? Jesus Christ indwells believers. Their good works are His works. Their faith is His faith. Their lives are His life.

Therefore we are saved by the righteousness and obedience of Jesus Christ, mercifully and freely imputed to us as if it were our own.

But it's not. It is His and His alone. Christ does it all.

"Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:24

78 posted on 04/19/2010 10:30:58 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law
And you could be the first female Reichbishop.

No, I'm Presbyterian and the Presbyterian Church does not have bishops. We have elders and presbyters elected by and from the congregation, a system upon which the U.S. government was specifically modeled.

(And my Presbyterian denomination does not ordain women as pastors, so spare me the attempted insult.)

But thanks for thinking of me.

Of course, if we did have bishops we'd abide by the word of God when he described a bishop...

"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach" -- 1 Timothy 3:2

Wake up, Rome. You're going the wrong way.

79 posted on 04/19/2010 10:45:28 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

Comment #80 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-91 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson