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Two Fathers [Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna]
Standing on My Head ^ | 2/25/10 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:33 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: Dr. Eckleburg
After reading this sidebar about the color extremes of black and white, I'd like to offer a thought for meditation - namely, that once black has been added to white, no amount of white added back into it can make it more than a shade of gray.
41 posted on 02/26/2010 9:59:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
He is telling Roman Catholics to ignore what their own lying eyes reveal to them; what their own conscience tells them; what the Scriptures teach them; and simply go along with the papacy's deflection of the truth. That's exactly what the words are saying.

No, that's your biased interpretation of his words.

If you want "exactly what the words are saying," quote them.

42 posted on 02/26/2010 10:02:09 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Scripture is the final call, the measure of all truth and life and spirit, our only rule of faith and practice.

Since Scripture does not say that, your statement is false...it fails under the weight of its own circular illogic.

43 posted on 02/26/2010 10:04:33 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Graham Machen, founder of your church, never confused black and white.

He always made sure they each found their way to their own water fountains.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 10:06:16 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

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“Hierarchical Church” is simply the church who gave you ther gospel; yeah, if you believe the gospel you won’t believe the Protestant lies, no matter what color they seem.

Now, is there a reason why we discuss St. Ignatius of Loyola when the topic is St. Ignatius of Antioch?


45 posted on 02/26/2010 10:06:35 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You mean the one that says black is white? The one who has apologists defending that gibberish?

Starting to get a bit ragged round the edges now, Doc.

No silly.........the one which Paul takes about in Scripture!! Remember.........Scripture. Read the Letter to the Ephesians!! The bride of Christ!

Here, look.....

Being subject one to another, in the fear of Christ. 22 Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: 23 Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. 25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. 32 This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. Eph; 5, 21-25., 31-33.

46 posted on 02/26/2010 10:06:59 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rats, I should have added that I use that metaphor to illustrate the hopelessness of man after the fall. He could never be good enough, he had to be born again.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. - John 3:5-8

God's Name is I AM.

47 posted on 02/26/2010 10:07:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: marshmallow
Scripture is "easy"?? Really??

First of all, why are you putting "easy" in quotes? I didn't say the word "easy." I said "children understand the Gospel." Do you deny this?

Are you taught that Scripture is difficult to understand? Is that why the Roman Catholic apologist doesn't enjoy reading the Bible and prefers instead the "black is white" rigmarole of the papacy?

The Bible tells us that faith is able to be perceived and received by children. But you would prefer I don't believe that and instead believe you that what is important is alarmingly difficult to comprehend.

Christ says otherwise. Follow Christ, Marshmallow. His "yoke is easy, and his burden is light."

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

49 posted on 02/26/2010 10:10:43 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: marshmallow
I understand the definition of the bride of Christ.

I deny that description fits the Roman Catholic church.

50 posted on 02/26/2010 10:12:14 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
Invincibly opposed to anything and all things Catholic, it's true...........on the one hand, a complete waste of time but then there's the lurkers. We must think of them.

It's also Lent and I must do penance......LOL!

53 posted on 02/26/2010 10:13:42 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Alamo-Girl
once black has been added to white, no amount of white added back into it can make it more than a shade of gray.

Wow. That is great! I may have to steal that one sometime. If I don't give you attribution, nudge me, will ya? 8~)

55 posted on 02/26/2010 10:16:31 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

If you wish to write an article to discuss the claim, then go ahead - but do not carry the same issue from thread to thread. That accomplishes nothing but trouble.


56 posted on 02/26/2010 10:16:51 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Alamo-Girl
...once black has been added to white, no amount of white added back into it can make it more than a shade of gray...

Sounds vaguely segregationist, or anti-miscegenationist.

57 posted on 02/26/2010 10:18:01 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Are you taught that Scripture is difficult to understand?

Did you read Peter's words about Paul's letters?

Did you see the following four words....difficult.......to.....be ....understood??

Would you like me to post them again??

Why not?? You can never have too much of a good thing!!

And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

58 posted on 02/26/2010 10:19:10 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm glad you like it! And don't attribute it to me, I heard it on a TV show years ago and it rang true in the spirit.
59 posted on 02/26/2010 10:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Religion Moderator

I am not carrying anything from thread to thread.

Redeeming the reputation of Pope Benedict’s father (no matter how impersonally it is phrased) somehow is trouble now?

That’s a sickening kind of Stasi attitude.


60 posted on 02/26/2010 10:20:58 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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