Richard Williamson 'Unrepentant' Over Holocaust Denial

The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2/2/10 | David Wroe

[marshmallow]

The head of the brotherhood, Bishop Bernard Fellay, likened Williamson to uranium. "It's dangerous when you have it," he said, while adding one couldn't "simply leave it by the side of the road".

LOL.................

[pnh102]

The notorious English bishop also allegedly told colleagues from his ultraconservative brotherhood ...

I smell bias.

[Tax-chick]

LOL!

Honestly, though, it makes no sense for him to “repent” if he genuinely believes what he asserts. One would “retract” statements or writings one has come to believe are incorrect, and one would “repent” if one felt a sense of having done wrong. However, it appears neither of these possibilities applies to Mr. Williamson. He seems to believe he is correct.

[Mengerian]

What an ignoaramus. He, as a Catholic, should know that millions of Catholics were killed during the Holocaust too.

For him to deny it signals that he is void of sound mind and rational thought.

[mkjessup]

Promote ‘Bishop’ Williamson to be the Archbishop of Tehran, he’ll get along great with those little Jew-hating pricks.

Probably have afternoon tea with Ahmadinnerjacket once a week.

[achilles2000]

Yes, but the real issue is the totalitarian nature of the German law. While I am sure everyone on this forum thinks this fellow’s belief is false, the German government is now acting as Orwell’s Ministry of Truth and is punishing a man who dissents from the official line set out by the those who control the government.

This is just the sort of thing that the global warming fanatics wanted for their cause. No government should be allowed to have this power - even when we think the government’s position is right.

I think the Germans still haven’t recovered from marinating in National Socialism, Communism, and various other forms of socialism in the 20th Century.

[Pessimist]

Question to all (and I’m not a denier):

How does anyone really know “how many” were killed?

Did someone actually count to 6 million, or is was this an “estimate”?

I have no doubt “many” were killed, I just wonder if the number wasn’t subject to the same kind of manipulation as the AGW temperature data.

[marshmallow]

Nowhere does he deny the genocide of Catholics or any other group.

Yes he does. He has said bluntly that there was no Holocaust. Period.

He questions the 6 million JEWS figure, and the methods used to mass murder.

He's not really questioning anything. He denies the 6 million Jews figure and denies the existence of gas chambers. He's as convinced of the historical accuracy of his beliefs as most everyone else is convinced to the contrary. He's equally as convinced of the authenticity of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". So it's not really correct to portray him as an inquisitive skeptic. He's taken up a contrary position and is as closed to the idea that millions of Jews perished as everyone else is the idea that the Holocaust never happened.

That's not a sin (unless he knows the truth and is obstinately refusing to accept it) and it certainly doesn't deserve a criminal prosecution but it does raise questions about his judgment and common sense.

[allmendream]

The Germans, then as now, were meticulous record keepers.

Moreover we know who was missing, and we have seen (and counted) the bodies in the mass graves, and read the ledgers and shipping orders of the cattle cars filled with those the Nazi's wanted dead.

While some records were no doubt lost during the war (things blowing up and burning down and all) there is no doubt among rational human beings that the Nazi's killed several million Jews in the camps designed and built as factories of death.

But if the third Reich killed only three million (a figure unsupported by the evidence by the way), do you suppose that this makes them only HALF as reprehensible, only HALF as evil, or just less competent in their perfidy?

[wagglebee]

I know that the pope lifted the excommunication, but I was not aware that Williamson is actually recognized as a bishop by the Church.

[Notary Sojac]

There are still leftists in the West who support Stalin and Mao. But I don't think many of them would deny the mass murder under those regimes, instead they try to rationalize it as in some way necessary.

In the case of the Nazis, we have "revisionists" who try to prove that the mass murders never happened. That's the difference.

If someone said to me, "yes, the Nazis killed six million Jews, and it was a good idea", he'd be morally bankrupt, but at least he wouldn't be denying history.

Please give me a citation for "22 million Catholics killed by the Nazis".

[allmendream]

Do I care?

What does his peripheral connection with those who died in concentration camps have to do with his Holocaust denial?

Germany is around one third Catholic, then and now, so Catholics died on both sides of the war.

But there was no specific animosity towards Catholics in the same way that the Nazis hated and persecuted the Jews, and put forth propaganda justifying their wholesale slaughter and the plans for their eventual elimination through genocide “the final solution” to the “Jewish problem”.

So if the figure was three million instead of six million, does that make the Nazis only HALF as reprehensible, only HALF as evil, or just less competent in their perfidy?

[Notary Sojac]

"The Nazis killed 22 million Catholics"

again, citation please.

[ArrogantBustard]

How does anyone really know “how many” were killed?

Because the German National Socialists, efficient and industrious little buggers one and all, KEPT RECORDS. Those freaks were proud of what they were doing ... at least, as long as they thought they would win.

And they killed 11.5 million people in the death camps.