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No Salvation Outside the Church
Catholic Answers ^ | 12/05 | Fr. Ray Ryland

Posted on 06/27/2009 10:33:55 PM PDT by bdeaner

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To: driftdiver
You implied I was an RC. I'm not a reformed Calvinist.

An example of pride is unwillingness to admit you are wrong such as with his little watching you icon.

Why would I "admit" an untruth?

181 posted on 06/28/2009 11:19:44 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

“If its not in there then you are adding it.

False dichotomy. “

Oy Vey


182 posted on 06/28/2009 11:20:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Petronski
lolol. The more you keep this up the more you reveal your method of debate to everyone who's reading these threads.

The smiley face says "I'm watching you." It is not a vulgar gesture and has nothing to do with birds.

The "I'm Watching You" smiley face comes from here at Photobucket.

As it is with Scripture, so it is with all truth. One must have eyes to see in order to know what's what. Pray for eyes to see.

183 posted on 06/28/2009 11:23:02 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

“Why would I “admit” an untruth? “

You’re probably the only person on the planet that sees that icon as vulgar. perhaps its the idea that you might be held accountable for your blasphemy.


184 posted on 06/28/2009 11:23:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Then it’s an “I’m watching you” emoticon that makes a vulgar gesture.


185 posted on 06/28/2009 11:24:37 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: driftdiver
You’re probably the only person on the planet that sees that icon as vulgar.

You probably think so.

186 posted on 06/28/2009 11:25:27 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Well this has been fun, have a blessed day.


187 posted on 06/28/2009 11:26:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
...the idea that you might be held accountable for your blasphemy.

I've engaged in no blasphemy. But you've just engaged in bearing false witness against me.

188 posted on 06/28/2009 11:26:28 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: bdeaner
Lord Jesus Christ, who said unto Your Apostles, "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give unto you," regard not our sins, but the faith of Your church, and grant unto her that peace and unity which are agreeable to Your will, who live and reign, God, forever and ever. Amen.

O Lord, increase in us the faith.

My God, unite all minds in the truth and all hearts in charity.

I believe the quote from John 14 is :
27 "Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you;
not as the world gives do I give to you.
Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.

28 "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.'
If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father,
for the Father is greater than I.

29 "Now I have told you before it happens,
so that when it happens, you may believe.

30 "I will not speak much more with you,
for the ruler of the world is coming,
and he has nothing in Me;

31 but so that the world may know that I love the Father,
I do exactly as the Father commanded Me. Get up, let us go from here.
There does not seem to be a reference to YHvH's "called out ones"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
189 posted on 06/28/2009 11:28:43 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: driftdiver

“As long as its not the road of good intentions.”

It depends which way you are driving on that one. This article has repaved it - so it’s a smooth ride either way.


190 posted on 06/28/2009 11:30:19 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Petronski

Saying a Priest is like Christ is most certainly Blasphemy.


191 posted on 06/28/2009 11:30:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Saying a Priest is like Christ is most certainly Blasphemy.

We're all called to be Christ-like in our daily lives.

192 posted on 06/28/2009 11:31:55 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

“...Simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with — both in his official ministry and in his personal life...”

Once again you are twisting words.


193 posted on 06/28/2009 11:33:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RFEngineer

“It depends which way you are driving on that one. This article has repaved it - so it’s a smooth ride either way.”

I didn’t know you could leave Hell. Is there a toll at the gate or something?


194 posted on 06/28/2009 11:34:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg

You know, I think the icon is actually saying “You keep pointing out my blindness and I get really unhinged about it”.


195 posted on 06/28/2009 11:34:47 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: driftdiver

Those who rebuke the Seven Blessed Sacraments would certainly have a great difficulty understanding this teaching. They might even call it blasphemy or, worse yet, invite deliberate confusion by insinuating it means more than it does.


196 posted on 06/28/2009 11:35:38 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: driftdiver

There is a toll gate according to papists: the Roman Catholic Church. The toll used to be call indulgences...


197 posted on 06/28/2009 11:36:47 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: big'ol_freeper

If you want to flip off a Brit, that is one sure way to do it. You don’t need to be a Brit to understand the vulgarity.


198 posted on 06/28/2009 11:36:49 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
There is a toll gate according to papists: the Roman Catholic Church. The toll used to be call indulgences...

Thank God you're not talking about the Catholic Church.

199 posted on 06/28/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Indeed a Brit would find that vulgar. That is the equivalent of flipping the bird at someone just as to many giving the “ok” sign by making a circle with your index finger and thumb is considered vulgar.


200 posted on 06/28/2009 11:39:03 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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