The EWTN website is correct -- it IS a sacrifice. Petronski is correct -- it is a non-bloody, re-representation of the Lord's eternal, singular sacrifice. Try reading the Catechism. You might learn something.
Posted on 06/27/2009 10:33:55 PM PDT by bdeaner
lolol.
"Paranoia runs deep
Into their life it will creep..."
What unites us is our love for Jesus and desire to share that love with others.
Lol. Amen!
Amen, Mary!
He can't. We cannot be good enough or do enough good works to be saved and spend eternity in Heaven.
Amen. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
Do you mean the one where your religion injected the word 'Catholic'??? You mean the creed that you guys claim confirms your apostolic succession??? Nope...Besides my creed is the Gospel...
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Amen! Great post.
Put your money where your mouth is. I am calling for a bet. Are you in or not? I could use the money.
The link not only fails to demonstrate purgatory, but it blatantly conflicts with scripture in many places.
"What does Scripture say about entering heaven? In Revelation we read that "nothing impure will ever enter it" (Rv 21.27). But are we not all made pure by our justification, by the blood of the Lamb? Again, such a view is incompatible with the doctrine of sanctification."
This confuses justification with sanctification. I know I've quoted it before, but it is such a GREAT verse:
Hebrews 10:
"12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. 13 Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, 14 because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
"he has made perfect forever" - not he will make perfect, or maybe if we are contrite enough - no, Jesus Christ HAS MADE PERFECT FOREVER! Justification! Not good enough until the next sin, but PERFECT FOREVER!
And who is it? "those who are being made holy" Sanctification. We are being made holy - set apart. And not 'who are becoming holy', but 'are being made holy' - an act being done to us, by God.
I have been forgiven for every sin I WILL commit.
Ephesians 2 "6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,"
Not will raise us up, or will seat us, but SEATED US WITH HIM! It is finished! It is done!
I could quote verses ad nauseum. However, it was so pervasive that people twisted it to believe that Paul's teachings "serv[ed] as a license to commit whatever act we so desire since forgiveness is already received or gotten without contrition", to quote your link. And Paul repeatedly defends himself by explaining that we've been born again, a new creation - not a creature of sin, but one of good deeds.
About the Judgment of Christians, your link uses 1 Corinthians 3 to say "Paul plainly tells us that Christians with bad deeds who approach Christ the Judge will find themselves in a fire, burning away those deeds. Such a place is not hell for Paul is speaking of saved Christians: "he himself will be saved." It cannot be heaven for there is suffering: "he will suffer loss . . . as one escaping through flames."
But what Paul says is, "11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames."
It is our ministry that will be put to the flame, to see if we built on the foundation well ("using gold, silver, costly stones") or poorly ("wood, hay or straw"). And if the latter, we enter with nothing to show our Lord, for while WE have been forgiven, our works - our ministry, building the church on the foundation of Jesus Christ - will be shown to be nothing.
I will try to write more tomorrow.
Don't fall for that secular prejudice. If God is real and faith is true, then God-fearing men of faith are exactly who should be leading our country. Resist the call to hand over our society and culture to godless men.
There is no such entity as "Apostolic succession;" only the faith of Jesus Christ as learned and preached by the apostles according to the Scriptures.
In short, then, God cannot create something, including time and space, that can limit Him.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
The Catholic Mass transhistorical nature is first illustrated when Christ offered His glorified Body and Blood at the Last Supper, the day before He actually died on the Cross
Scripture doesn't say that...Where do you get that from???
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Oh Oh...No flesh and blood in heaven??? Now what???
Sure Jesus appeared in the flesh to his disciples...Jesus appears as a lamb that was slain in Revelation...Jesus can appear as anything He wants when He wants to...But does He have flesh and blood in heaven??? Apparently not...
The Eucharistic Sacrifice is foreshadowed by the prophet Malachi: For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering; for my name is great among the nations, says the LORD of hosts (Mal. 1:11).
The Church sees these verses as a prophecy of the Sacrifice of the Mass, for what other truly pure sacrifice could there be that Christians can offer throughout the world every day?
Problem is, Jesus never asked anyone, including your religion to off Him as a sacrifice...You have any scripture where Jesus said for you to offer Him as a sacrifice???
This is clearly future prophecy that has not been fulfilled...It will take place during the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ on this earth where EVERY NATION ON EARTH will know that Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords...
Jesus sacrifice on Calvary is thus once for all, yet never ending; it is timeless. Thus, when we re-present Christ’s one sacrifice at Mass, God actually enables us to make ourselves present to this timeless offering.
How in the world is eating Jesus flesh a re-presentation of HIS sacrifice on the Cross...No one ate His flesh on the Cross...
It started out that if you eat Jesus' flesh, you will have eternal life...Even tho you don't get it, it's as least in the scriptures...How did you guys turn it into YOU sacrificing Jesus???
What??? You guys just read this stuff, park your brain at the door and somehow just blindly believe it???
The extent of the idolatry Rome encourages is illustrated in this link...
...the Mother Coredemptrix who immolates herself with the Son on the Cross in order to bring to pass the universal Redemption...
The rest only gets worse. They need to repent. Fast.
Most agree on the fundamentals, and NONE of them gets as much wrong as Rome.
None.
Didn't know that...My inlaws are Lutheran...My wife is a former Lutheran...
Ridiculing our justification by the righteousness of Christ puts one outside orthodox Christianity.
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