Catholic convert from Oregon coast becomes a priest (former Evangelical)

cna ^ | June 17, 2009

[Petronski]

...like worshiping bread instead of God...

Catholics don't do that.

You don't object to Catholicism, you object to a grotesque distortion of Catholicism.

[Petronski]

If that keeps you at peace at night, by all means, keep believing it.

[Sir_Ed]

Depends...is it the book of John from the Textus Receptus, published by Scripture Press?

Heh heh heh...

Ed

[Petronski]

I made a typ when I said “praying “for” her, I meant praying “to” her. I don’t see anywhere in the Bible where Jesus, Paul, James, Peter, anyone who wrote the Bible, says to pray to HUMAN BEINGS.

Pray means ask. You've never asked anyone to pray for you?

[Sir_Ed]

Too late, I already did.

I’m keeping my swing shift job, though...thanks for the advice.

Ed

[Petronski]

It’s obvious to me that those nuns were praying at a box, not towards God Himself...

Yet they knew they were praying to God Himself.

Imagine that: your perception of what is "obvious" has no bearing whatsoever on what they are doing.

[bdeaner]

I wonder if the Roman Catholics here would be willing to say she was predestined for her role. Or did it happen by her “free will”?

Free will. Luke 1:38.

[Petronski]

“Free” will would require that God had no hand in it and had no idea if she actually would do it or not.

Nope.

Once again you conflate foreknowledge with fore-ordination. They are NOT the same.

[Petronski]

...since foreknowledge requires absolute control over the outcome to be accurate...

But it does not. Your statement is simply false.

[Petronski]

...I already did. I’m keeping my swing shift job...

[rimshot]

[Sir_Ed]

Heh heh heh!

Petronski, I’ve always enjoyed your posts, as I have many other Catholic activists here...I don’t want to be contentious with you.

Take care,

Ed

[Petronski]

I doff my chapeau to you sir. “Catholic activist” is the very best thing I have ever been called by a critic of the Catholic Church.

[Dutchboy88]

Once again you inflate your viewpoint. Of course foreknowledge is not foreordination. But, you will never be accused of reading these posts.

Foreordination precedes foreknowledge. God determines He will do something after the counsel of His will. He then knows what it is He will do. But, foreknowledge implies an absolute control over the outcome is in the background.

Start your spurious arguments somewhere else.

[Petronski]

But, foreknowledge implies an absolute control over the outcome is in the background.

It does not. You are conflating foreknowledge and fore-ordination. Deny it again, I don't care. That is what you are doing.

[Petronski]

God determines He will do something after the counsel of His will. He then knows what it is He will do.

You're a sola Scriptura type, right? Where did you get this bit?

[Dutchboy88]

Deflate your balloon, conflate your ego, do anything you want. If this is the logic dictated by Rome, it is no wonder the believing world laughs at them.

[Chesterbelloc]

What a wonderful story. Thanks for posting it!

[Petronski]

Called on your confusion twice, you resort to mockery.

T’was ever thus.

[Petronski]

If this is the logic dictated by Rome, it is no wonder the believing world laughs at them.

The capital city of Italy dictates nothing to me, and as a member of the believing world, I can assure you, I do not laugh at them.

[Sir_Ed]

I regard all of you as keepers of the faith, with some disagreements on my part, but I look forward to reading you and other committed Catholic’s posts here all the time.

See ya’,

Ed