Being reincarnated as Hillary or Helen’s underwear.
Thanks for posting.
IMO the (remarkably few) scriptural texts supporting the immortality of the soul require a strained reading, while the far more numerous texts supporting the idea that the human soul is merely the live human being which returns to nothingness at death do not.
Occam’s Razor therefore indicates that the writers of the Bible did not believe in the Greek/Persian idea of inherent immortality.
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I would suggest reading N.T. Wright’s book on the Resurrection wherein he discusses the various forms of afterlife, pagan and Jewish beliefs in a life after death.
A fascinating work and it might help a bit.
Reading the original language with a dictionary on hand might help too. some of the words used carry multiple meanings.
I would suggest reading N.T. Wright’s book on the Resurrection wherein he discusses the various forms of afterlife, pagan and Jewish beliefs in a life after death.
A fascinating work and it might help a bit.
Reading the original language with a dictionary on hand might help too. some of the words used carry multiple meanings.
As someone who was brought up in the church but is now an atheist, I don’t exactly stay informed on fine points of theology, but i was surprised recently to notice that the Apostle’s Creed says that Jesus descended into Hell.
Hell is a place were reason has no play.....The liberal kool-aid America we’re living in.
The author missed something in his study. The bible never uses the word “torture”. It uses the words punishment and torment.
Could any saint be happy in eternity knowing a loved one is eternally in torment? Most likely we won’t remember the lost because to us it will be as if they never existed.
I don't care for either option.
I'm choosing Door Number Three.
Eternal torment....
Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mar 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Mar 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Thanks for posting. This is something to study and consider with much prayer. I believe the SDA church teaches this too.
Better get over here and set these people straight
Wherein Fudge says contradictorally it's not necessarily forever and ever. I think Fudge is fudging. "Forever and ever" is forever and ever. Rev 20:10 says that Satan and all who follow him will be thrown into the lake of fire where they will be tormented forever and ever.
Belief in annihilation is whistling past the graveyard.
If God is not present, it would be Hell. If God didn’t have any authority over this world, we would create Hell. I believe that Hell is eternal separation from God, where there exists nothing but darkness and evil. In short, Hell is separation and isolation. That is the experience of eternal death.
What about Christ saying it would have been better that Judas was never born in speaking of his betrayal? Thanks in advance for your response.
A fascinating read. I have thought about almost all of these same points a number of times, and have pretty much reached the same conclusion. Furthermore, I would say that if our eternal existence, whether in joy or torment, rested on our belief system here on Earth, then the Bible would be far more explicit. Rather than having numerous sects and even different religions based on different interpretations of the Bible, we would have an unequivocal Bible which says: do this, don’t do this, believe this, and then all of these specific things will happen. Having a book of parables and metaphors which we have to interpret correctly or else suffer eternal torment seems particularly cruel and somewhat random in its results.