Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer
God never told Eve she was blessed before she fell to sin...
You're trying to inject more logic...
Disagreeing with RC doctrine is not hate speech, unless George Orwell has anointed king.
AMEN!
Why did Luther not only NOT write a 96th Thesis, but continue to preach the Immaculate Conception? What of Calvin, Zwengli and Wesley, why did not of them “search scripture”? If they were so “wrong” on this what else were they wrong on?
It's common courtesy to ping someone to a post when you mention them by name.
And I didn't know Alex was the Religion Moderator. Alex, when did you get promoted?
8~)
You can say that again. Also, God’s word and it’s secrets you could say are revealed tot he believer. We are taught to test what we hear against the scriptures. Sad to say, but if the Pope starting saying that solely good works will get you to heaven, a ton of people would follow him into hell.
You're right...When I don't know something that I want to know, I learn it...I don't sit there and stab at it with logic and claim my logic is authoritative...
You can not tell if a thing is true unless it is writen explicitly in Scripture?
Does God hate dictionaries? What does "Blessing" mean? Do you think being created by God without sin is not a blessing?
I know that you want to believe that, but the truth is the contrary; they searched the scriptures to protect their understanding from "new ideas." New ideas are pure error; we need understanding of old facts, not new ideas. In 700 AD, Islam was a new idea.
And to answer your question, the Religion Moderator made the following suggesting in THIS POST HERE.
(Pinging all THREE of you.)
#2, you don't seem to know what "logic" is.
Logic is not any attempt to conjecture. Logic is the application of truth to discern additional truth. The thing about truths is that if you combine them in logical ways, they must be true.
God's angel Gabriel told Eve that she had found favor with God. I'd call that a huge blessing.
The Lord was foretold in the OT.
His blood sacrifice was foretold in the OT. (in many ways, and many places)
Blah blah blah.
You separate yourself from the Holy Sacraments of His Church and the results are obvious.
All true. And yet, the New Testament was new. The Bereans did not have closed minds to complex ideas. They did not eschew “logic.”
Sola Scriptura were new only in Enoch’s time; it’s been solid fact since.
A man in a saffron robe told me that at Toronto Pearson International while he tried to sell me a posie.
Honestly, RM - if you could me understand why the thread was pulled. I sent the following to the LM who pulled it.
THE EUCHARIST CHRIST
To Lead Moderator | 05/03/2008 7:46:34 AM PDT sent
You pulled a thread by this title (from this link http://contenderministries.org/Catholicism/eucharist.php) last night from the religion forum, providing only the comment “No thanks”. Please help me understand why this was pulled - what are the rules I violated in posting it.
I realize FR is not my property and want to understand how to play well here.
No. It was par for the course at the time.
Is it better to be with sin than without sin?
Well, of course not. But Eve was not without sin.
It's ridiculous to even ask the question, yet that is what your arguments imply.
How so? It is kind of like our nominee in this election- Many would call McCain a hero based upon what he once was. But that is silly. One is only a hero as long as one remains heroic. One cannot be a traitor and a hero at the same time.
God created Eve out of nothing, in a perfectly sinless state. How is that not a blessing?
It is incidental, It was the state of all mankind at the time (granted, only two of them)- Had not the Fall of Man occurred, every one of us would be in that state even now.
How can Eve be blessed when she and her old man are responsible for every single cursed thing upon this earth? It is silly to even consider.
Hatred, bigotry and false witness.
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