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Protestants and Sola Scriptura
Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Mad Dawg

Once again you said it so well—and so efficiently (not some long, puffed-up diatribe).

You have described my own parish experience. We have a variety there that fits your description, but I also know a “chunk of them” who take their life of faith as top priority. We have Scripture studies, young adult groups, neighborhood helping hands groups (we help to provide food for the needy); we have young mothers groups and and we have groups of people who are planning to be baptized into the Church. We have groups who meet for prayer and we also have groups who meet in the church to pray the Liturgy of the Hours together.

And these kind of people—as you have said—provide the sparks for those who may—for a time—seem less than “on fire”.

Nothing is so contagious as good will, good attitudes and good humor.

“The glory of manhood is never seen in this world-—men do not blossom on earth in their higher attributes. You injure a man here because he is of little value to society and he passes from your sight and you think no more of him, but when you see him again he may be a prince before God.”


1,521 posted on 05/07/2008 8:37:38 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: griffin
sorry. don’t take turns with people who can’t face reality.

When I said "your turn," that was your invitation to provide documentation for your "little suzie" post.

I denied that was the position of the RCC. Now it's your turn to show me I'm wrong.

1,522 posted on 05/07/2008 8:37:49 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: conservativegramma

Mary’s the one in the center bathed in light???


1,523 posted on 05/07/2008 8:38:24 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Quix
You seem to be suffering the illusion that I’d give such a free pass!

You seem to be suffering from the illusion that you don't need to abide by Scripture:

    But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

1,524 posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:22 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: griffin
In this case. I WAS black...

Irrelevant. If a white person said exactly the same thing, they would be accused of racism.

It's still bigotry by definition

1,525 posted on 05/07/2008 8:41:56 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Iscool
Mary’s the one in the center bathed in light???

Yes, although she's quite larger in person than the picture shows. She's also got her feet on a globe of the earth which you can't really see, and apparently according to another poster 12 stars around her head. I couldn't remember that detail, I just remembered the huge statue dead center with the feet on the globe.

1,526 posted on 05/07/2008 8:45:56 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Wonder Warthog
The "keys of the kingdom of heaven" are indicative of Peter's authority. Totally biblical (and historical).

That's it??? The 'keys' were given to show Peter had authority???

1,527 posted on 05/07/2008 8:46:51 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: griffin
IF...and I do mean IF, Christ has chosen to regenrate you within the rcc, then I along with the angles praise His work in you.

If the early Christians had been as enthusiastic over Peter's "sheet revelation" as your "praise," Christianity would be nothing more than a haughty Jewish sect.

1,528 posted on 05/07/2008 8:48:08 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Titanites

Naw. Wrong again.

You have no idea how much I apply that Scripture in the Biblical way.

St Paul in one situation insisted that the officials come and escort him out of jail in broad daylight.

One best applies Scriptures under guidance of Holy Spirit.


1,529 posted on 05/07/2008 8:51:46 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Mad Dawg

So what is the clinical name for that pathology, Dawg?


1,530 posted on 05/07/2008 8:54:21 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Mad Dawg
We Catholics always show our idolatrous worship by turning our backs on things. Stop with the spin stuff, okay?

Hey MD, I've read numerous times on these threads where the priests as well as the congregation face EAST...That is, with the priests back to the congregation...

So which is it???

1,531 posted on 05/07/2008 8:56:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: conservativegramma; Iscool
Yes, although she's quite larger in person than the picture shows. She's also got her feet on a globe of the earth which you can't really see, and apparently according to another poster 12 stars around her head.

As somebody already pointed out, it is a biblical seen. It is not a globe of the earth.

    Revelation 12:1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

1,532 posted on 05/07/2008 8:56:43 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: FourtySeven
Please, what do you all think of my post #145?

I revisited your question on original source documents for the Bible. That is a good question. I don't have the answer but perhaps you can find it here. Consider that we do not have the two tablets on which God wrote the Ten Commandments yet no one questions their validity. Just a thought ;-)

1,533 posted on 05/07/2008 8:57:15 AM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: Titanites
biblical seen scene
1,534 posted on 05/07/2008 9:00:07 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
As somebody already pointed out, it is a biblical seen. It is not a globe of the earth.

Excuse me, I was there. I was not only there, we were right below that statue as my husband was photographing a wedding and I was positioning the wedding party directly beneath it. Its a GLOBE with a scene painted BEHIND THE GLOBE.

1,535 posted on 05/07/2008 9:00:55 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Mad Dawg

I know of more than one person who set out to cause pain and provoke anger

= = =

Sounds like another False allegation, accusation—false witness


1,536 posted on 05/07/2008 9:00:57 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Titanites

BTW, I haven’t seen any RC classes in that scheduled.

Might be good to start at the kindergarten level.


1,537 posted on 05/07/2008 9:02:26 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: conservativegramma
Its a GLOBE with a scene painted BEHIND THE GLOBE.

I don't doubt it's a globe. Just not one of the earth. Referring to the picture in #1401, where is the painted scene?

1,538 posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:57 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: conservativegramma; Iscool
I'd like to call attention to your use of a word:
Yes, although she's quite larger in person than the picture shows.As people often do when speaking of a painting or a statue, you are "pretending" that the statue IS the thing or person signified or depicted. I am certain that you don't think the statue is Mary or anybody else. It's a thing. Precise diction would have called for the word "it", "It's quite larger in person ..."

I cannot shake the suspicion that if a Catholic had said "She", you would say, See there? They DO think it's Mary and they are praying to that statue!"

Maybe it would be useful to consider why you said "she" and what you meant by doing so.

FYI: As CG describes it, it sounds like a statue of one of the visions of St. Catherine Laboure. BUt it couls also be a depiction of the lady of Revelation.

1,539 posted on 05/07/2008 9:07:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix
Might be good to start at the kindergarten level.

You're a little too old for kindergarten, aren't you?

1,540 posted on 05/07/2008 9:09:08 AM PDT by Titanites
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