Protestants and Sola Scriptura

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[Titanites]

What you consider an altar - a mere table

Please don't tell me what I believe. An altar is not a "mere table".

My definition of altar is the entire podium whereon the table stands and all that surrounds it. If you look at the small pic - you can clearly see it - although its not as large as it is in person.

The altar is in front, on the right. I'm wondering if the reason you are confused is that you don't have an altar in your church?

[Petronski]

Catholic: I worship Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Catholic-hater: No no, catholic, YOU worship Mary. Don't try to deny it.
Catholic: That's not true, I do no such--
Catholic-hater: SILENCE foul blasphemer!

[Petronski]

...your actions clearly speak what you worship no matter how you may spin it otherwise.

You bear false witness against me with stunning facility.

[conservativegramma]

Oh Thx Titanites for getting that picture bigger! Now everyone look at Mary at the CENTER (of course the size looks smaller than she actually does in person.....) then look to Christ there on the right. Who's the focal point??????? Eh??? Who's prominently displayed here????

I don't know about you but I SEE Mary at the center, couple of angels, saints, ANOTHER MARY on the left and finally you see CHRIST there outside on the right. Yeah sure thing, you don't worship Mary, riiighhhtt......

[wagglebee]

So, you are saying that the church pictured in 1380 teaches idolatry? This is getting more interesting by the minute.

[conservativegramma]

I'm wondering if the reason you are confused is that you don't have an altar in your church?

What's an alter for Titanites? Sacrifices right? Why does anyone need an altar when Christ made the complete and FINAL sacrifice 2,000 years ago?????? Maybe that's where YOUR confusion comes in. Unless you don't think He was telling the truth when it claimed, "It is FINISHED"?

[Titanites]

Is the reason you oouldn’t recognize the altar because you don’t have one in your church?

[Wonder Warthog]

"The kingdom that the keys unlocked is here now for those for whom the keys are intended."

Sorry. Wrong. The "keys of the kingdom of heaven" are indicative of Peter's authority. Totally biblical (and historical).

"First you have to accept the salvation that comes from the blood shed at the cross, and stop watching the pagan ‘priest’ try to hang our Lord back on the cross every day to repeat the payment."

The first half of the sentence is exactly what the RCC teaches. The second half is total fantasy invented anti-Catholic nutcases.

"Then the spiritual gifts will open the kingdom to you. You’ll never see it as long as you adhere to pagan traditions; they block the Holy Spirit from working."

The Church teaches NO "pagan traditions", and never has. Stop reading Jack Chick and Jimmy Swaggart anti-catholic BS, and actually learn what the RCC REALLY teaches.

[Petronski]

Unless you don't think He was telling the truth when it claimed, "It is FINISHED"?

You have been confused about what it was that was finished.

[roamer_1]

18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.

Thank you.

[conservativegramma]

So, you are saying that the church pictured in 1380 teaches idolatry? This is getting more interesting by the minute

So what's your view of someone who lays flowers down before and prays to a statue???? Or for that matter genuflects to a statue??? Perhaps you need a clearer def. of idolatry and for that matter a clearer def. of worship.

But you are right the desire to deflect away from clear blasphemous teachings within the RCC is definitely interesting to see.

[Titanites]

Unless you don't think He was telling the truth when it claimed, "It is FINISHED"?

When "it" claimed? Jesus is an "it" to you?

[conservativegramma]

Is the reason you oouldn’t recognize the altar because you don’t have one in your church?

Read Post 1407. We don't have one because we don't continually sacrifice Christ over and over. The altar was eliminated at the crucifixion when the veil within the Temple was torn in two and man was allowed direct access to God.

[Mad Dawg]

All your thought are belong to them.

[conservativegramma]

Ooops, typo. No, definitely not at ‘it’ LORD of LORDS, and KING OF KINGS. Sorry.

[wagglebee]

I asked:
So, you are saying that the church pictured in 1380 teaches idolatry?

You responded:
So what's your view of someone who lays flowers down before and prays to a statue???? Or for that matter genuflects to a statue??? Perhaps you need a clearer def. of idolatry and for that matter a clearer def. of worship.

I will take that as an affirmative response that you DO believe the church pictured in 1380 is guilty of idolatry.

But you are right the desire to deflect away from clear blasphemous teachings within the RCC is definitely interesting to see.

I'm very interested WHAT EXACTLY do you think the church picture in 1380 has to do with the Catholic Church? Please be precise.

[conservativegramma]

I'm very interested WHAT EXACTLY do you think the church picture in 1380 has to do with the Catholic Church? Please be precise.

Statuary everywhere. Flowers laid before statuary. Statues, statues, statues........

[wagglebee]

Unless you don't think He was telling the truth when it claimed, "It is FINISHED"?

Are you saying that He is dead?

What was "finished"?

[Titanites]

and prays to a statue????

Catholics don't pray to statues and are prohibited from doing so by Church teaching.

343 It is not allowed to pray to the crucifix and the images and the relics of the saints, for they have no life, nor power to help us, nor sense to hear us.

[roamer_1]

Which words?

Luk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
(e-Sword: KJV)