Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer
I suspect I’m far better formally, experentially, technically trained and more formally tested
as an expert in describing human behaviors . . .
than any other RC hereon that I’m aware of . . . certainly than some . . .
I realize, of course,
how important it is for some folks to construe my descriptions of human RELIGIOUS behaviors as horribly askew
else they’d have to confront the RC edifice and maybe their mirrors in frightful ways about frightful facts.
You mean like the weekend drunken binges and sex and more booze and then more sex so many Catholics engage in then Sunday morning go to Mass, confess their 'sins', then repeat everything all over again the next Saturday night?????? That kind of fruit????? (Hint: The name Teddy Kennedy ring a bell?)
Are you judging all Catholics by Teddy Kennedy?
Whatever expertise you might have is addled by your personal bias.
I wouldn’t dare, be akin to you judging all protestents based on the Westboro bunch.
I’m judging based on the ones I have personally known and still know PERSONALLY who engage in this behavior and then some......(and I’m not even mentioning the local priest who goes on these drunken binges.....)
Roman edifice teaching in formal document oriented ways might somewhat—to a rather limited degree—be as so many hereon persistently assert . . .
However, the gestalt; the COMMUNICATED memes; a vast array of slightly above subliminal messages communicates something else entirely and quite MORE effectively.
That’s very obvious to even layment not blinded by the magicsterical’s pomp and circumstance.
I did no such thing. You're making things up now?
Did Mary have 12 stars around her head and a big star in the middle (Sometimes shown)? If so that represents common image of her deriving from Rev. 12.
Looks like the centerpiece does have stars around the head.
http://www.stmaryevansville.org/worship.html
It's not what they say, it's what YOU say they say.
Right. You're playing The Game.
I’m not convinced that there’s more than a very few (usually quiet and mild mannered) RC’s hereon who can tell the
DIFFERENCE
between
a fruit and a rock crystal;
a fruit and a sparkplug;
a fruit and a dead armadillo;
a fruit and a plastic statue;
. . .
much less between quality and rotten fruit.
Actually, I’ve known a significant percentage to act remarkably like Scuba Teddy.
Maybe there’s some genetic defect transmitted through ‘holy’ water?
Convincing you of reality is a continuing problem.
Are you accusing me of lying AGAIN? You are the one who brought up fruit. If you want to judge others BY their fruit you might want to start with your own people first because every single Catholic I have PERSONALLY KNOWN has none.
I am not saying [before you twist what I've said] that there are no catholics who produce fruit because I am sure that there are.....I am talking about those I KNOW PERSONALLY. And the ones I know PERSONALLY who have produced fruit (like my Pastor's wife) have LEFT the RCC and call it a false religious system (SHE said that having been raised in it, NOT ME before you attack.....)
Eternity will tell.
So far, I’d match my human behavior predictive skills regarding RC’s and Prottys up against virtually anyone’s. I could easily not be the best but God has enabled me to be well above average. Therefore, my biases must not pollute such skills that much.
One can believe otherwise . . . if one chooses to believe yet another falsehood.
I’ve never found falsehoods to be lastingly comforting, however.
And as you’ve demonstrated and argued, you consider yourself free to ascribe behavior of members of a group to the members of the group in general.
That’s the stuff most folks know as bigotry.
You are leaving readers with the impression that I did this.
I did not.
Perhaps some memory pills would help a fair number of RC’s.
I’ve persistently not given much weight to what
RC’s SAY . . .
what they DO screams so much louder so much more often so much more destructively.
It might interest conservativegramma to know that individual Catholic parishes essentially have ZERO say over the readings at a regular Mass, priests ARE NOT at liberty to make changes in the Liturgy of the Eucharist. So, it escapes me how ANY parish can place ANYONE above our Lord.
I see NO MENTION on the website WHICH St. Mary the church is even named for. If conservativegramma is implying that naming a church after a saint or some other person, she needs to launch the same attack against nearly every protestant denomination.
Now, let's look at what the website DOES say and perhaps conservativegramma can enlighten us about where she is in disagreement:
We, the people of St. Mary Church,
through the guidance of the Holy Spirit,
are inspired to be a hospitable Catholic community
in downtown Evansville, Indiana.
We are dedicated to celebrating God’s presence in our lives
through sharing the Eucharist
and proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
We are committed, as disciples of Jesus, to seek out and serve
the needs of the hungry, the hurting, and the homeless.
We hold sacred all family life through the nurturing of marriage,
the engagement process, and the single life.
We are entrusted to pass on our faith tradition
through Catholic education, evangelization,
and ongoing Christian formation.
We are challenged to be stewards of God’s abundance,
stewards of prayer, of one another,
and the Earth.
We are called to be a people of justice.
Funny, there is NOTHING here that indicates that ANYONE is placed above Christ, but read on.
Liturgy at St. Mary Catholic Church:
The documents of Vatican II state that “The Eucharistic sacrifice is the source and the summit of the whole of the Church’s worship and of the Christian life.” Here at St. Mary, we strive to always maintain the highest standard of liturgy. Our constant hope is that all who gather in worship will be enlivened and inspired by hearing God's Word proclaimed, by raising their voices in songs of praise, and by partaking of the Body and Blood of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
Our Liturgical Ministries seek to actively engage as many people as possible, so that all feel truly welcome and can fully participate in the Eucharistic Celebration. From Ministers of the Word to Greeters, Ushers, Masters of Ceremonies, Servers, Sacristy Assistants, and more, we seek to have a place for everyone in the Liturgy at St. Mary.
Along with our Liturgical Ministries, our Music Ministries cover the breadth of the musical spectrum and seek to give vocalists and instrumentalists solid opportunities to praise God in song.
To find out more about our Liturgical and Music Ministries, use the menu to the left.
So, I am quite confused what this parish is doing that Protestants consider "unbiblical" or how they are putting the Blessed Virgin Mary "above" the Lord.
Not really.
My reality testing is quite solid and grounded . . . really grounded . . . not on fantasy sky scrapers in the sky built on toothpics.
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