Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
Better?
And again, the answer is found in Scripture. And the answer is NO.
The apostles had no successors, for to succeed them one needed to be a witness of Christ's resurreciton...
Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection." -- Acts 1:21-22"Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
St. James the Greater is killed in Acts 12.
Was St. James of Jerusalem in Acts 15 an apostle or an elder?
Only the AV1611!
I didn't see that post-what number was it?
The KJB was suppose to be a revision of the Bishops, but the translators used mostly the Geneva.
Since the Bishops was in the line of the Tyndale-Geneva-AV1611, the differences between them all are relatively minor in comparsion to the changes between the AV1611 and the modern versions.
As for Tyndale, well, King Henry VIII, in 1531 declared "the translation of the Scripture corrupted by William Tyndale should be utterly expelled, rejected, and put away out of the hands of the people." And in 1543—after his break with Rome—Henry again decreed that "all manner of books of the Old and New Testament in English, being of the crafty, false, and untrue translation of Tyndale . . . shall be clearly and utterly abolished, extinguished, and forbidden to be kept or used in this realm."
And God answered the prayer of Tyndale when he prayed as he was about to burned at the stake for the 'crime' of giving the Bible to the average person, 'open the eyes of the King' and the Matthews Bible was allowed to be circulated freely, which was essentially Tyndales translation of the NT and parts of the Old.
Thomas More said searching for errors in the Tyndale bible was like searching for water in the sea.
And why would anyone care what More said about anything?
Tyndale is ranked with Shakespeare as the greatest individual influence on the English language.
And 90% of the NT in the AV1611 is Tyndale.
But the one verse that all pre-1611 versions (including the Douay-Rheims) agreed on was 1Cor.1:18, which makes salvation an event-not a process-the Christian view of salvation.
And that is??? I don’t understand your shorthand. Sniff.
Even if the requirements of Acts 1 were those of the Holy Spirit, and not just the prudential judgment of the 11 remaining apostles (remember the Holy Spirit had not yet fully descended then), those requirements were clearly waived when the other apostles accepted St. Paul among their number.
About 5000, is that right?
How were they evaluated by these non inspired King James bureaucrats? I suppose that you’d be cool with Bill and Hillary Clinton commissioning, buying, paying for, and ratifying the modern WCF.
Call it the new WCF - the Washington Confession of Faith. No? After all they’re good Baptists, or Methodists, or something, I’m sure.
***Denomination does not matter.
Either you have Christ as your Lord and Saviour, or you don’t.***
So, you reject His Church and still cry Lord, Lord.
Good luck to you.
***Many churches have beautiful stained glass windows with Jesus and the Lamb. ***
Many but not most?
***The Word is so important as are prayer and intercession.***
Many Protestants believe that only Jesus is the Intercessor. Prayer then for others (or one’s self) becomes useless under that doctrine.
***We aren’t ‘wildly’ charismatic but we believe in all the gifts of the Spirit. I’m glad God brought me here (and I did meet my husband here, too!)***
God gives gifts to all according to His design. I have seen some wildly charismatic types that would seem to be better off well supervised. I’m happy for you that you met a good husband. I trust, given your posts, that you are an even better wife.
***We don’t have pictures of Him on the throne.***
That is really my point.
***And there are many people within those denominations who DO have Christ’s DNA.***
And that is for Him to decide, not us.
*** According to the Great Commission, we who believe on His name are to make disciples of all the world.***
According to Reformed belief, it actually only extends to the selected elected elite. Perhaps a review of the WCF might be in order.
***And God answered the prayer of Tyndale when he prayed as he was about to burned at the stake for the ‘crime’ of giving the Bible to the average person, ‘open the eyes of the King’ and the Matthews Bible was allowed to be circulated freely, which was essentially Tyndales translation of the NT and parts of the Old. ***
You’re funny. Agents of Henry VIII - no friend of Catholicism - had him captured and killed in Holland.
***And why would anyone care what More said about anything?
Tyndale is ranked with Shakespeare as the greatest individual influence on the English language. ***
By whom? I suppose that Sts. Ambrose and Augustine don’t matter either.
So, you reject His Church and still cry Lord, Lord.
Good luck to you.
***I believe His Church consists of those who believe in Him and have accepted Him as their Lord and Savior.
And no, I do not reject His Church.***
That’s a big difference between Catholics and so many others. We realize that we don’t get to make up the rules. We do not enforce our individual beliefs on others. We accept the Faith of the Church, who has been entrusted with all by Jesus and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, which we just celebrated yesterday.
By your prior posts, I think that you are rejecting His Church. That of course is not for me to Judge - there is only one Judge but He has made it clear that He makes the rules and that individuals don’t. We don’t get to make up our own churches and our own theologies based upon our moods or emotions or whims.
You either follow the Catholic Church or you follow a church of men. You can follow the church of Luther or Calvin or Knox or Wesley or Smith or thousands of church creators, or you can follow the Church of Christ.
That’s a big difference between Catholics and so many others. We realize that we don’t get to make up the rules. We do not enforce our individual beliefs on others. We accept the Faith of the Church, who has been entrusted with all by Jesus and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, which we just celebrated yesterday.
By your prior posts, I think that you are rejecting His Church. That of course is not for me to Judge - there is only one Judge but He has made it clear that He makes the rules and that individuals don’t. We don’t get to make up our own churches and our own theologies based upon our moods or emotions or whims.
You either follow the Catholic Church or you follow a church of men. You can follow the church of Luther or Calvin or Knox or Wesley or Smith or thousands of church creators, or you can follow the Church of Christ.
***I am the Church of Christ.***
That’s a big statement, sir. Are you sure that you can back it up in front of the Throne?
Yes, the edition of the Bible I use has one of those "read the Bible in a year" programs with readings from all over the place every day. I have to admit I've never done it that way before. :) But I should probably try it. I like the idea of a chronological Bible. That sounds very interesting.
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