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The Eucharist: The Body of Christ? ("Respectful Dialogue" thread)
Our Sunday Visitor (via Catholic Culture) ^ | 1/2005 | Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/27/2008 3:36:18 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Petronski

I LOVE your tagline!


241 posted on 04/27/2008 1:28:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

That is just great Niceness. See how easy it is once you try?


242 posted on 04/27/2008 1:29:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: Tax-chick

It is EXTREMELY easy. Evidently it is much easier when one has Truth on their side. *grin*


243 posted on 04/27/2008 1:31:04 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper
[ Perhaps if one were to pray that such malice were to be removed from one’s heart, one would be open to the fullness of Truth present in the Catholic Church. ]

Good thought.. or prayer.. except that a Roman Catholic would be open to the fullness of truth BEYOND the Roman Catholic Churchs theology...

Many are you know.. Daily; many leaving that hinderance to a reformed way of thinking.. After they become a reformed christian THEN they might pray to go on to even greater truths than the reformed(all of them) posses..

From Roman catholic to reformed to even greater truth being the "path".. Because I am neither roman catholic or reformed.. Both theologys hamstring the spirit..

244 posted on 04/27/2008 1:33:17 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

We’re a cultural and canonical anomaly.


245 posted on 04/27/2008 1:33:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Evidently it is much easier when one has Truth on their side. *grin*

One might get that impression, yes.

246 posted on 04/27/2008 1:34:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: Tax-chick
[ We’re a cultural and canonical anomaly. ]

The RCC fighting protestants and protestants engaging the RCC.. is a chinese fire drill..
I love John ch 10 which explains it all..

247 posted on 04/27/2008 1:37:53 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

I notice traffic runs in both directions.

I would also say that Truth is not relative and is irrespective of human choices.

It is my firmly held belief that the Catholic Church possesses the fullness of Truth. I believe anything else falls short.


248 posted on 04/27/2008 1:38:22 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: hosepipe

BTW...for accuracy sake, please have the respect to call the Church by its correct name. It is not the “Roman” Catholic Church, it is the Catholic Church. I am offended by a misnaming of the faith I hold so dearly.


249 posted on 04/27/2008 1:40:39 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: hosepipe
We all have our ways of looking at things. If we all agreed, "This is my way of looking at things," we could have more Respectful Dialogue.

Some Roman Catholics (to use a less than totally precise, but generally understood term) come to St. Luke's and are aghast. "This isn't a church!" Well, it's not a church, canonically: it's a multipurpose facility. We plan to build a church, but we have to find a new location because of the endangered Carolina Heelsplitter Mussel and a danged enormous shopping mall.

Other people go there and say, "This is wonderful!" So we're all ... what we are, and what we think is ... what we think.

250 posted on 04/27/2008 1:45:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
[ I would also say that Truth is not relative and is irrespective of human choices. It is my firmly held belief that the Catholic Church possesses the fullness of Truth. I believe anything else falls short. ]

True you do.. And the RCC is the place for you.. I don't deny that.. All roman catholics should stay in the roman catholic church as long as they can stand it.. maybe even longer until they get a snoot full.. Its a good place for them,.. As are the reformed churchs a good place for the reformed.. (John ch 10).. They all they shoul dremain there until they cannot anymore.. Like me..

The dance in the RCC and reformed churchs are painful to me.. To painful to remain.. I know I tried in both.. I'm just bearing witness to a few lurkers(and others) that they are not alone.. There are others(ME) that notice both the reformed and RCC and EO by the way are just playing church.. There is something beyond them both.. John ch 10..

251 posted on 04/27/2008 1:47:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: gost2

Have you ever, ever read any of the Ante Nicene fathers and those of the Early church who wrote before the Schism between the Eastern and Western churches? Do you know that some of the AnteNicene fathers were taught by the Apostles themselves, and that these men did hold and preach the same teaching on the Eucharist that Catholics, Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox have today?

Because like it or not the school of thought that the Eucharist is only a symbol is the new one. This was not even expressed by the Reformers who though they condemned the Catholic doctrine on the Eucharist had a higher view of the bread and wine than it only being a way to express church unity and/or as a way of remembering (in the sense that we remember any historical event) the Last Supper.

Since Catholicism is an affront to you, I suggest you parcel out some of that affront for the Orthodox, the Oriental Orthodox, The Copts and even for some of your Reformed brethern such as LCMS who would quickly condemn any assertion that the Body and Bread are only symbols.

And as to your gorge rising everytime you see the Pope. Well I manage to keep my gorge down everytme I read a stinking lie, libel, falsehood, attack, gross misconception, hostile post, infamy or calumny upon Catholics and their Church. Which I suspect is a lot more than the number of times you see the Pope. So do try your best to cope. You could start by not reading threads which obviously address Catholic subjects.

The word respectful is in the dictionary take a peek.


252 posted on 04/27/2008 1:53:08 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: hosepipe

There is no church called the RCC or Roman Catholic Church...


254 posted on 04/27/2008 1:55:58 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Religion Moderator; XeniaSt
It is a "trial run" to see if the Religion Forum is ready for a third type of thread: open, closed, "respectful dialogue."

Free Republic is pro-God but there are many beliefs under that classification and none of them will be selected as "the" official one.


Based on this thread alone and the constant accusations of "disrespect" it is obvious the concept has failed.
255 posted on 04/27/2008 1:57:40 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Well without leaping to any conclusions I would have to answer no to the premise.


256 posted on 04/27/2008 2:00:30 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Tax-chick
[ We all have our ways of looking at things. If we all agreed, "This is my way of looking at things," we could have more Respectful Dialogue. ]

Exactly.. You come to a herd of Cats(FR) and expect to herd them up into a flock is silly.. No its not silly its utopian.. One thing is certain, come here(FR), and any subject can be thoroughly vetted.. I mean torn apart and rearraigned.. Thats a good thing I think.. I thionk of the 4 creatures in Rev ch 4 that are full of EYES.. before on the back and within..

Expecting undue respect HERE is fool hardy utopianism..

257 posted on 04/27/2008 2:01:48 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe; markomalley

Good observation about the eyes! I think we could have politeness without “respect.” It’s sort of like the liberals’ trope of “hate.” In my opinion (culturally, rather than religiously) people can “hate” all they want, as long as they obey the law.

In the same way, here, we could privately think others are damned to Hell, totally insane, uncultured Yanks, or whatever we want, if we agreed (based on the premise of the thread) to use good manners.


258 posted on 04/27/2008 2:08:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Como estrella en claro cielo, de fulgente resplandor, escogida fue Maria por designo del Senor.)
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To: hosepipe
No..you are wrong. The Catholic Church consists of 23 rites, one of which is the Latin Rite (or Roman Rite). To simply refer to the Church as the "Roman Catholic Church" is disrespectful to the other 22 rites.

Here is a link to the Church website. Nowhere will you see Roman Catholic Church: The Catholic Church

Am I authorized label your faith any way I wish?

259 posted on 04/27/2008 2:08:30 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Petronski
No amount of luck will help when the thread is beset by those who think "respectful dialogue" is a 2x4 to the head.

LOL!

260 posted on 04/27/2008 2:09:49 PM PDT by TheDon
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