Posted on 04/01/2008 4:23:02 PM PDT by NYer
“”Put out into the deep ...””
Our Fishers of Men are beginning to grow. We have three from our parish alone, and two religious.
It seems that wherever there is Perpetual Adoration in our Diocese, the vocations grow. We also have a very deep devotion to the Blessed Mother.
It’s amazing that there is always someone at Adoration whatever hour night or day.
Great job! My parish has adoration only on First Fridays, but it’s a start.
Great Scriptures, of course - the Author is Great. You are on target: the phrase, “Mother of God” is blasphemous. But so are most religions :-)
Let me guess, it's not the Bible.
I expressed “glee”? That was assuming a lot on your part.
God saves. Books don't.
Books, like a passing remark or a change in the weather, can be the occasion of God's saving. Sounds like God lined up the dominoes in this guy's heart and then used the book to knock 'em down.
Calvinism not only robs you of your free will, but we are expected to believe it robs everyone else too.
Good grief.
Yeah, I knew that. But a good typo is too good to ignore.
So there was no special intimacy between Jesus and his mother? You jest. Even the most depraved of human sinners hold their mothers in special esteem. Murderers weep when they speak of their own mothers.
If you have come to this conclusion from a "careful reading of Scripture", then I think it's fair to say you've totally missed the beauty of the Gospels and New Testament. You've parsed Scripture to a point where it's meaning has been lost. A reading of the Gospel of Luke, for instance, speaks clearly of this wonderful intimacy. John the Baptist lept in Elizabeth's womb at the greeting of Mary.
There's a bare, minimalist, coldness in the way you attempt to confine God's plan of salvation, as if the inclusion of those whom God himself chose to participate in this plan, somehow dishonors Him. Don't put God in a box. Jesus was in no way obligated to come to us through Mary, or to live under her care in Nazareth. He could have come down to us the same way he left us; on a cloud. But He didn't. Mary brackets the story of redemption. She begins it with her "yes" to the angel and she receives the last words of Jesus just before he dies on the Cross, "behold your son".
It's an irrational, dictatorial, selfish God whom you worship. One who is paranoid that we might honor those whom He himself loved when He lived amongst us. There's almost a whiff of Islam about it.
Taz understands that, being Undead :-). Typso are the oil on the grinding gears of our daily excavator, especially when we've given up wine and can't find a kitten.
I shouldn’t be thinking about wine at 10:30 a.m., but it’s Girl Scouts and Cub Scouts day, and that always stresses me out. Cold and rainy, too, so the kitten is hiding under the bed waiting for spring, and the little boys are leaping like lemurs around the house!
I hope you’re well! I need to go plan something for 13 little girls to do, *indoors*, for two hours :-).
Mary's role as Co-Redemptrix (again this is not defined as De Fide dogma) is completely subordinate and entirely dependent on Christ's redemption and sacrifice. It is a cooperative role just as we are called to be "co-workers" with God in salvation (1 Cor 3:9; 2 Cor 5:20; 6:1 cf. Phil 2:12-13). In the sense previously defined, the primary meaning of Co-Redemptrix, that Mary cooperated in the Redemption through the Incarnation of Christ, there certainly is plenty of biblical support for the claim that Mary "with Christ redeemed mankind" (John 1:1,14; 3:16-17; 1 John 4:9-14). The Adam-Christ (Rom 5:12ff; 1 Cor 15:20ff) and Eve-Mary parallel is found throughout the early Fathers of the Church, from St. Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD) forward showing us the entire history of Christianity believed that "Mary with Christ redeemed" the human race. This important early belief is stated explicitly by St. Irenaeus:
"By disobeying, Eve became the cause of death for herself and for the whole human race. In the same way Mary, though she also had a husband, was still a virgin, and by obeying, she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race..." (St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies 3:22 c. 180 AD)
The RCC seems oblivious to the nearly incestuous shellac with which they tarnish the relationship between Christ and Mary. It is not only unScriptural and blasphemous, it's thoroughly unseemly.
Human suffering is not redemptive by ourselves alone, but ONLY because we as Christians are united to Christ as part of his saving body, the branches in the vine (John 15:1-8). The Blessed Virgin Mother of God, as the preeminant saint and member of the Church, by her loving obedience and cooperation in the Incarnation, by her sufferings at the cross, and by her present prayer and intercession in heaven, has indeed brought salvation to the body of Christ, and redemption to the whole world. This way she really is the Co-Redemptrix of humanity and Mediatrix of all graces.
Much in the fashion of a sixteenth-century autocratic French lawyer.
You didn’t like the Crawfish Crunchies? I should have included Worchestershire Sauce.
This is so beautiful. Thank you.
I’m amazed to see Nestorian heresies revived in this thread.
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