LOGIC AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF PROTESTANTISM

The Coming Home Network ^ | Brian W. Harrison

[Quix]

Mary was an intercessor superior to even Abraham.

What outrageous balderdash! It boggles my mind that folks could even IMAGINE such wholesale horrific UNBiblical nonsense. And they teach such lies to children!!! Talk about child abuse! Sheesh!

Magnificent Magical, Manipulated, Manmade, Mantra-mumbling, Matriarchal, archetypal Earth-Mother Mary strikes again.

I wonder what price the first Marion concession went for. And who's relative cornered that first market?

Imagine, if God were not wrapping things up in our era . . . and Jesus were going to tarry another 2,000 years . . . the nutty RC cult would have Mary as co-creator nursing whole infant galactic clusters at her galactic bossom. Then there would be the new mythology that satan would have been a model child had he had Mary as a mother.

Then some corner of the magicsterical would decide that they needed a new dogma about Christ having to spend the 3 grave days in purgatory because He questioned Magnificent Miraculous archetypal Earth-Mother Mary about making water into wine so soon in His ministry.

God have mercy. To think that more than a billion people believe such . . . flower food . . . really grieves my spirit. It's a bit insulting that anyone would think we should check our brains & Bibles at the door, take our soma and believe such horse feathers.

Mind boggling. When I thought it was already all nutty RC cult boggled out.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Certainly, I trust Jesus and I follow His directions to "do this in remembrance of me."

I don't, by the grace of God, make the error of believing "another Christ" can morph bread and wine into the blood and body of Jesus in some sort of wizardly alchemy.

It is enough for me that I am saved by Christ's one-time sacrifice on the cross. Read Hebrews 10.

[annalex]

I don’t think your assessement of St. Ignatius’s epistle is what matters; you posted something to the effect that the early Church used the word “Catholic” in some un-Catholic way and I showed to you that it was not so.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Yep. It’s all fiction. Dangerous, debilitating, Christ-denying fiction.

[wmfights]

I'm curious how you interpret John 20:21-23:

"He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. 22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them: and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."

On what basis do you believe that the supernatural powers given to the Apostles were passed on?

[rbmillerjr]

“The church in Rome encourages such requests, in contradiction to God’s word and the truth of Christ risen.”

Nothing is contradicted. Please show me God’s Word that forbids asking Mary to intercede...and there is no requirement to do such in any Catholic doctrine.

[Quix]

All power is to Christ Jesus.

I've observed, hereon, that to be utterly false. Again--the vast majority of lines posted by nutty RC cult reps are in behalf of idolatrous Marion threads, posts, positions.

Time and energy is a measure of interest, focus, power . . . by that measure alone, the above statement is a brazen falsehood HEREON . . . and in a host of other places.

The RC cult edifice reps hereon HAVE REPEATEDLY PROVEN their adoration, veneration, worship is first and foremost to archetypal Earth Mother Mary. Jesus comes in probably a poor third or 4th--after the magicsterical and Pope/Church fathers.

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. When words are the primary action, they are countable. Quite an empirical measure of where the REAL nutty RC cult devotions lie.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Christianity is very simple and does not need the Catholic superstructure of outdated traditions rooted in dead cultures and forgotten heresies.

Ah, would that were true. Sadly, those heresies aren't forgotten, but championed around here.

[rbmillerjr]

“I don’t, by the grace of God, make the error of believing “another Christ” can morph bread and wine into the blood and body of Jesus in some sort of wizardly alchemy.”

There is not another Chirst, only Jesus Christ Himself. You know that. Yet, you deny not only His Gospel, but His very Words...
...John 6:53-58, 66-67 (Read the Word of Jesus Christ)
“So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him”

[Quix]

What a horrific long running gig.

I wonder if the fallen angel group are going to try and bring an imposter on the scene and foist her off as the real Mary in all the END TIMES dramas . . . something akin to their masterful efforts at Fatima. They are clearly such artists at it. They sure have the ruling NWO oligarchy shookered. Snookering the billion Roman cultists should be quite easy if the reps hereon are any clue.

[annalex]

We don't know when St. Peter was bishop of Rome, but his first letter hints at his being located there (1 Peter 5:13), and of course that is what has been traditionally believed. St. Peter also consecrated the bishopric of Antioch:

The most famous scriptural reference concerning Antioch relates that it was in this city that the followers of Christ were first mockingly referred to as "Christians" (Acts 11:26). In the Book of Acts, which offers an account of the first years of the Church, we discover that Antioch is the second most frequently mentioned city. Nicholas, one of the original seven deacons was a convert from Antioch and perhaps the first Christian from that city (Acts 6:5). During the persecution which occasioned the death of Saint Stephen the First Martyr, members of the fledgling Christian community in Jerusalem fled to Antioch for refuge.

Church tradition maintains that the See of Antioch was founded by Saint Peter the Apostle in A.D. 34 . Peter was either followed or joined by the Apostles Paul and Barnabas who preached there to both Gentiles and to Jews, who seem to have been numerous in the city. It was in Antioch that one of the first conflicts within the Church developed between Peter and Paul. This conflict regarded the necessity of circumcision for male Gentile converts to Christianity. It was the resolution of this conflict at the Council of Jerusalem under Saint James the Apostle that determined the direction of the Antiochian mission to the Gentiles, and the dynamic nature of that Christian community in its missionary outreach. It was from Antioch that Paul and Barnabas departed for their great missionary journeys to the Gentile lands (Acts 13:1).

Founded by Saints Peter and Paul

[annalex]

it is the church of Rome that created so many of these divisions

The Church never tolerated error and never will.

[blue-duncan]

“Mary is not worshipped, but venerated as the Mother of Christ.
“...blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of they womb Jesus.”

Jesus “blessed” loaves and fishes also. What’s your point?

Mat 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed [it], and brake [it], and gave [it] to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

Mar 6:41 And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave [them] to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.

Mar 8:7 And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before [them].

[wmfights]

Now look, Brother . . .

you have no right to be historically accurate!

You have no right to be Biblically accurate!

You have no right to be logical!

LOL!

Thanks, your post helped lighten things up.

[Quix]

The Church never tolerated error and never will.

HISTORY LISTS HORRIFIC ERRORS AFTER HORRIFIC ERRORS of the RC magicsterical edifice, ruling elite, political power mongers.

That ANY FREEPER of any persuasion could believe such unhistorical balderdash is shocking to the max.

[rbmillerjr]

...and btw, nowhere in the Bible did Jesus say do this as a symbol...

There is not another Chirst, only Jesus Christ Himself. You know that. Yet, you deny not only His Gospel, but His very Words...

...John 6:53-58, 66-67 (Read the Word of Jesus Christ)
“So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him”

Read these verses and pray to Christ about them.

[Quix]

GIVEN that nutty RC cult threads are conceived, hatched and nurtured in Alice’s rabbit hole . . .

I figure we may as well have SOME fun with them.

Thanks for your kind words.

[wmfights]

Catholics are hardly Bible mangling. In fact, you can thank St. Jerome for translating the Holy Bible and the Catholic Church for authorizing the original canon of the Holy Word.

This gets said all the time, but it is just not true. When, where and how did the church in Rome do all this?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Please show me God’s Word that forbids asking Mary to intercede..

Catholics have asked that very same question dozens of times on this forum, somehow thinking that black is not black and white is not white.

When Paul says to us in 1 Timothy 2:5 -- "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus," he is clearly illustrating that there is ONLY one mediator, just like there is ONLY one God.

If you think there are other mediators, then according to Paul, you would also believe there are other gods, to your detriment.

Sadly, Rome makes this mistake over and over and over.

Further, if you believe that praying to Jesus' dead mother is permissible because the Bible does not explicitly say "Don't pray to Mary for intercession," then you are equally susceptible to believing the fantasy that it's okay to pray to Pamela Annderson because the Bible does not explicitly say "Don't pray to Pamela Anderson for intercession."

[annalex]

What’s your point?

RBM can answer for himself, but since you bring it up, isn't the obvious point that inanimate objects toughed by Jesus are to be venerated as relics?

She came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment; and immediately the issue of her blood stopped (Luke 8:44)