Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Of course there was no Roman Catholism unril about 300AD... surely you know that...
***Why, thank you, Mark, for such a great honor. ***
Oh no, don’t thank me. I must thank you.
***”One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.” — Joshua 23:10***
Judging by the number of Presbyterians dropping over the years, you may need that multiplier and more.
“objective proof that it is”
Objective proof is inductive reasoning (a posteriori) and that only renders “probable” conclusions, therefore, the correct statement is “I believe....”. “Pure Christianity” is a belief system and since this is a fallen world and we are fallen people saved by grace, we can’t know that our particular faith system is “pure”. Paul says, “we see through a glass darkly...”
The Catholic Church started in 33 AD at Pentecost.
St. Peter (and St. Paul) went to Rome where both were martyred.
I don’t know why you’re seemingly hung up on the Roman Catholic Church. I follow the Church that Jesus Christ left for us, also known as the Catholic Church. Our Orthodox brethren are also part of the Catholic Church. Same beliefs, same creed and doctrine, different coloured drapes on the walls.
Yawn.
That old hound ain’t hunting and it never did.
It’s time to put’er down.
It’s just senseless barking.
“God has no reason to test anyone.”
Of course He does.
Deut. 8:15-16, “Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where there was no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint;
Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee,
and that he might prove thee,
to do thee good at thy latter end;
Even the Psalmist knew this,
Psa 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart.
Psa 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
***What do you think, tc?***
Sounds like you have an axe to grind, K.
But no, I love the Patristics except for their negative theology and so did Calvin and Luther. Unfortunately your co-congregants have turned secular and liberal.
I assume you get the pointy hat with that award? ;)
Kosta: "That's one thing she is not, HD."
I think she's very smart for identifying the line between what conservatives think and what they are willing to say. She says it for them in a funny way and has made millions of dollars doing it. Of course she steps over the line on occasion, but that usually just boosts book sales. God bless America. :)
“...hey are both reformed from orthodoxy because orthodoxy is much simpler and more primitive than them.”
Primitive, well yup, that’s us, primitives. Its what makes us dangerous to them. We’re not quite white enough either, but that’s another story, one we had forgotten but have been recently reminded of.
Mark, we were around celebrating the Divine Liturgy for 1500 years before that crowd of descendants from 16th century malcontents came along, and we’ll be celebrating the same Divine Liturgy for 1500 years after their descendants have long since converted to Mohammedanism. :)
***Mark, we were around celebrating the Divine Liturgy for 1500 years before that crowd of descendants from 16th century malcontents came along, and we’ll be celebrating the same Divine Liturgy for 1500 years after their descendants have long since converted to Mohammedanism. :)***
You know that, and I know that, and deep in the recesses of their flinty little hearts and souls, so do they.
Some of them will convert and practice with the same fervour that they practice cultic Christianity, some of them will not and be submerged into purely secular society and some will wander over our way.
“...and some will wander over our way.” Nah...Mohammedanism.
Yeah, that one. But we were talking anout my tagline, not my opinions about of the NT. Orthodoxy is the same Christianity that canonized the Bible. If that is not pure Christanity, then what is?
LOL! What is Roman Catholic? The earliest Apostolic Fathers (i.e. +Ignatius) speak of the catholic church and orthodox faith. The Eastern Church wa slikewise Roman. The Greek side of the Empire considered itself Roman, and the capital of the Roman Empire was even relocated to Constantinople, the New Rome. The Creed does not say "I believe in One Holy Roman Catholic Church" but "in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."
Yup, the more primitive the closer to the original church...that's us.
:>)
How about my personal blog? Is that ok? I’m not sure about all these new fangled things :>)
It’s not ALL wrong, just the Paul stuff :>)
Belief is something you have that you have not seen and hope it is whatever you expect it to be. I don't have to precede my statement with "I believe" because it is a known fact, relative or absolute, it makes no difference. The fact is that we are the least changed, but rather represent a continuum of doctrine worship as the Church that canonized the NT.
Now, if you wish to accuse the Church of the 4th century of doctrinal impurity, you certainly are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that such an accusation would be hard to reconcile with that Church's ability to infallibly select and produce the Christian canon.
Staying that a posteri arguments are only "probable" is certainly true in some cases. In others it is not. Do you doubt that Henry VIII lived? Do you think it's probably that he didn't?
Bottom line: my tagline is a lot more factual then claiming indwelling spirit.
BD: Of course He does....Deut 8:15-16, Psalm 26:2, Psalm 139:23...
BD, I am very well aware of the existance of sections of the Bible (Job is certainly one of them) which say that God is testing us.
Nevertheless, God has no reason to test us. We believe God is omnisceint and doesn't need to "find out."
In all instances of biblical mention of temptaton or testing it is used for the same end: a moral message. Somoene is used as an example for others to learn. So, on what basis do you differentiate testing and tmepting?
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