Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Why are their children starving?
So, who is backing Bush if not the Evangelicals?
We have had labor shortage during WWII as well. The American people bit their lip and forged on. They didn't open the borders and let everyone in; nor were the Americans in those days willing to break the law for the covenience of having someone do the dirty jobs. They cherrished what they had and they fought for it, at home and abroad.
Building a wall will stop the flow across the border, but it does not correct the underlying problem. We have so little regard for life we kill our own
Walls never stopped anyone except those martyred on them. We are going to make outselves into a foretress nation with hundreds of thousands of troops lined up against the wall. East Germany comes to mind!
Americans decided to accept everyting as norm. Now we don't have norms. You can't drive on the left AND on the right. A country has to have norms and limits. Otherwise you have chaos. We have created our standard of living (our of greed) and have sacrificed taking care of our kids. They come home from school and do whatever they want. They are raised by institutions, daycares and what not.
Our society has become so permissive in the name of "acceptance" that we dare not draw a line lest we offend some special interest group. The abortions are a symoptom of our sickness. Trouble is, we created the sickeness. Now, we are fixing one sickness with another: illegal aliens. And we want to export this success to others and teach them to be just like we are?
Why does that matter?
Are you going to tell me they children deserve to starve?
***the EO and RC Patriarchs side with the Muslims against the Jews on a daily basis***
You wouldn’t happen to have examples, would you? I am unaware of any such activities.
***They are coming for you, people. The former Catholic stronghold of Hamtramck in Detroit has a mosque blaring out prayers six times a day, even though church bells are forbidden because they are religious. They are coming. What you all going to do about it?
Just decide not to sell out like the Catholics of Hamtrammack.***
It was not the Catholics of Hamtramck. It was the Baptists and the Evangelical movement that runs the city of Detroit. It is exactly as kosta described. The Protestant movement has sold out Christianity.
***Catholic Charities in Hamtrammack probably sponsored them.***
Probably?
It is not indicative of your past responses that you would resort to this. The truth is that the Baptist and Evangelical influence within the City of Detroit has allowed this. Catholic Charities is, well, charitable. I know that it is Scriptural, but that doesn’t seem to matter to many.
Still no name for the preferred type of government/social/political/economic system.
Fascinating.
Still no normal description of said system.
Just persistent ranting about problems we all agree are serious problems that CONSERVATIVES are outraged over.
Nothing new here, folks. Move along.
Evidently the preferred social/political/economic system is not respected enough by the poster to be owned publically.
Or perhaps it’s too dangerous to honestly state in this context.
***On the last day He will say to those on His right, “whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me, and He will also say to those on His left, whatever you neglected to do for the least of these, you neglected to do it for Me.”***
Have you not been paying attention? The Reformed God requires none of this from His creations. They are free to do as they see fit since nothing that they do matters.
***With God, we can ignore the base joys, the instant gratification, in exchange for the greater joy of following Christ. We don’t always do that, but with Christ we have the ability.***
But do you? And what happens if you don’t? Is there a consequence?
******“Sin is not wrong if you are of the elect, doncha know? It is merely a step along the way to one’s salvation and if it affects that majority bound for hell, it is of no consequence.”***
Not one of us has ever said anything of the like.***
What is the consequence?
***The Reformed claim an indwelling knowledge that others do not have.
The others would be non-Christians, not you guys. If one is a Christian then he has the same access to the Holy Spirit as any Reformer. There is no exclusivity. Of course with different Christian faiths, the mileage may tend to vary, but we don’t have anything that isn’t available to all other Christians.***
The Reformers are the only self described Christians posting here that claim that their actions and beliefs are guided, influenced and directed by the indwelling Holy Spirit.
That is Gnosticism.
I interrupt this . . . charitable . . . thread . . . [I know, using the term loosely]
to avoid a vanity thread . . .
Am trying to find a good Christian blog hosting site.
What are the better ones? Especially free.
Trying to sort out the mass of info available seems like a nightmare with so many other things to do.
LUB, THX N ADVANCE.
Relax,Dear Brother.
The reformed view of God is that God has already saved them ,thus they have psychologically convinced themselves that they are guided by the Holy Spirit that even when they sin God has given them the grace to do so as being part of His plan.
I ask you to pray for them and say the rosary for them to cease in this horrible belief they hold.
I use blogspot.com, as does my pastor.
See my blog, um, spot below on my tag :>)
There can be residuals from sin. For instance, overendulging with wine, you can wake up with a hangover. Overeating, especially for a long period of time, (trust me, I know about this) can result in diabetes, heart trouble, and other assorted maladies.
Other sins will have their own consequences, I don’t need to get into them, I think you get the idea, but none of these sins will cause you to lose your salvation. Jesus said that he will not lose one of his own that his Father gave him. We do suffer consequences, but not loss of eternal life.
***Relax,Dear Brother.
The reformed view of God is that God has already saved them ,thus they have psychologically convinced themselves that they are guided by the Holy Spirit that even when they sin God has given them the grace to do so as being part of His plan. ***
A fitting description. I shall endeavour to relax, as you have so fittingly prescribed. With 5 little kids at home, I may not be able to fully acquaint myself with that state, however much I atempt it.
The consequence of what? Distorting our beliefs? I do believe that would be called lying in most places.
***There can be residuals from sin. For instance, overendulging with wine, you can wake up with a hangover.***
Forgive me for my incredulousness, but are you saying that the only penalty that the Reformed suffer for their sins is the moral equivalent of a hangover?
***I think you get the idea, but none of these sins will cause you to lose your salvation. ***
Are you further saying that there is no sin, no atrocity, no crime so heinous, no diabolical act, that will prevent you, the elect, from entering the Kingdom of Heaven?
No, what is the consequence of sin under the Reformed God?
If you believe that you cannot lose your salvation, then what is the result of sin? Can you, as Luther indicated, sin boldly? And without consequence?
THANKS THNKS. Will check it out.
Have a bit of a bias toward supporting Christian sites.
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