Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
lol. Sounds eerily similar to the Rolling Stones song, "Sympathy for the Devil." 8~)
"Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith...
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game...
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached bombay
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name..."
Why would Paul, who I would think would meet the definition of "saved" need to keep running the race? Persevere for what? One only needs to preserver until the end of something. Eternal salvation is true, true and true, but only after the racers have run and they have persevered until the end that is death. That is the point at which salvation becomes eternal, that is the point of perseverance, that is when our Lord will say "well done my good and faithful servant!", I was saved at my baptism, I am being saved as I persevere and I will be saved at my death if I have persevered through His grace to the end of the race.
Amen. Forewarned is forearmed.
Evidently, the Religion Forum has gotten a bit more “sporty” since I quit posting in it. Let me know when the call to fix bayonets is issued.
I was saved when I was born again.
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
...if I have persevered through His grace to the end of the race.
If I have persevered? Where is that in Scripture? Where is it that if I continue to DO anything save believe on the Lord Jesus Christ I will be saved?
In Christ...Alone!
Sir/Madam, My postings are STRICTLY limited to Scripture...God's Holy Word. Obviously you consider them just "regurgitating snippets".
In Christ...Alone!
I did not claim anything about the number of languages into which Calvin translated the Bible. He was part of the reformation that pried it out of the back closet of the RCC and began putting it into language people could read.
Context - study the Biblical doctrine of salvation, not simply the occurrence of the word in a verse. Of course, Arminius’ theology has much more in common with RCC theology than does Reformed theology. And Arminianism was declared by good folk as heresy at the council of Dort in 1618.
The erroneous notion of praying to dead human beings is found nowhere in Scripture, yet is expressly forbidden in Scripture.
The dead are either in heaven with God because Christ paid for every one of their sins on the cross, or they have been condemned to hell as just punishment for their transgressions against God.
Therefore, the dead have no need of our prayers.
And we have no need of the dead's prayers because we know for a certainty that "there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (1 Timothy 2:5)
Apparently, Rome doesn't offer this assurance to its memebership, thus making men uncertain, fearful and frustrated, ever striving for something Christ has already accomplished for them, if God so wills.
Unbelievably appropriate!
“RE: Lyrics to “Sympathy for the Devil.”
Unbelievably appropriate!”
Are you implying that the Catholic Church is in league with the devil?
I'm not implying anything. What are you inferring?
In Christ...Alone!
You are correct, my friend - and assume, brother. I’ve seen RCC arguments based on the reasoned position that saints in heaven can see something of what’s going on Earth (Heb 12:1 and Rev 6:9-11), as if that meant we should pray to them or ask them to pray for us! RCC arguments also maintain that the prayers of the saints (Rev 5:8 and 8:3 - 4) are the prayers of those heavenly saints on behalf of the earthly saints 9which they do not recognize by that name).
Assumptions are the enemy of Truth.
I would be a "Sir", BTW.
Not being a Calvinist, I’m not infatuated with Arminius. In to what languages did Calvin put the Bible? Was He the first?
I have. James is specifically telling us that faith without works AFTER SALVATION is dead. He is not saying that we must show works to obtain salvation. If that was the case, Christ's sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient for our redemption. Is that way you are saying?
In Christ...Alone!
Thank you, I'll address that way. I just wasn't sure.
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