Posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:59 PM PDT by topcat54
Where is that exactly in Josephus's writings???
And you do know that for decades the Roman Army maintained a fortress on the Temple Mount and its presence there was not an abomination to the Jews.
What is this -- 20 Questions??? And what does that have to do with the question before you???
I have answered your questions straight forward on this matter. If you can't answer the question that you were so sure about in the beginning, then just forget it. I have boots to polish.
Gosh -- if everything about this Millenium is symbolic then why make an exception for the reign??? Oh -- that's right, you are a preterist, it comes with the territory.
BTW Does Satan have internet and cell phone service in that minimum security Lake of Fire???
***If I may respond, I believe the binding of Satan in Rev. 20 corresponds to the binding of the strong man in Matthew 12:28,29, and represents the present kingdom age when the gospel by the power of the Spirit has freedom out among the nations. Jesus is presently plundering Satan’s domain, and many souls are leaving the kingdom of darkness for the kingdom of light.***
Exactly. The binding of Satan is NO different from the way that Satan has always been bound in the sense that he has no more ability to work against the limits imposed by God than he had in the past. This is why, for instance, he had to have permission to do anything to Job. One of the wonders of God is that even Satan, while working for his own ends, has never been nothing more than a messenger of God, ultimately working his will. It must gall him to no end that his efforts serve to ultimately serve the will of the Lord.
However, the binding of Satan is different for the fact that he is now no longer permitted to deceive the nations while the Lord plunders his house of precious stones.
Well, I’m trying to get you to reason this out for yourself. If you have no interest, then I have no desire to impose the truth on you. You won’t believe it anyway.
***BTW Does Satan have internet and cell phone service in that minimum security Lake of Fire???***
So, is it your contention that, during the Millennial reign of Christ, Satan is in the lake of Fire? Scripture, please.
The one of the silliest comments from you yet.
The images in the Bible that describe things are the symbols. The reality is what the symbols represent.
Log that one away for future reference, no charge.
Exactly . . .
But given that Replacementarians seem to believe in drunken pink polka dot bunnies with green stripes running throughout their rubber Bibles . . .
PLEASE excuse those of us with normal Bibles for not bowing and scraping at the altar of mangled Scriptures; convoluted constructions on pseudo reality; fantasies ad nauseum; . . . and other slug slime detris from the Replacementarian edifi of cards.
The Replacementarians are dreaming of sending a space probe to the galactic cluster of
REASON?
Won’t wonders never cease.
My mistake -- "the bottomless pit". The question still remains, along with another: Just when was he bound and cast into this bottomless pit and when is his thousand year sentence up???
And that comment coming from the founder of the Preterist Caiaphus Fan Club -- short-lived of course. LOL
No it's all very real. Yet Jesus cursed the fig tree and it burned up and withered, even to the roots.
“Where is that exactly in Josephus’s writings???”
(Jewish Wars, book vi, chap.6): “And now the Romans, upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the holy house itself, and all the buildings round about it, brought their ensigns into the temple, and set them over against its eastern gate; and there they did offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus “Imperator” with the greatest acclamations of joy.”
“And you do know that for decades the Roman Army maintained a fortress on the Temple Mount and its presence there was not an abomination to the Jews.”
I can see you haven’t read Wars of the Jews by Josephus or you wouldn’t say that either:
According to Josephus, “the main catalyst for the Jews’ rebellion was the scandalous and unscrupulous Roman procurators in Judea continually provoked the Jews. They encouraged the plundering of the temple and the looting of the priests’ ornamental garments, along with other sacred treasures. This was the breaking point and sparked the inevitable revolt” (Wars of the Jews, Josephus, book II, chapters XIV-XVI).
“If I may respond, I believe the binding of Satan in Rev. 20 corresponds to the binding of the strong man in Matthew 12:28,29, and represents the present kingdom age when the gospel by the power of the Spirit has freedom out among the nations. Jesus is presently plundering Satan’s domain, and many souls are leaving the kingdom of darkness for the kingdom of light.”
Well put.
***My mistake — “the bottomless pit”. The question still remains, along with another: Just when was he bound and cast into this bottomless pit and when is his thousand year sentence up???***
Satan was bound at the beginning of the Millennium. He will be released to deceive the nations again at the end of the Millennium.
Well, first of all, the text of Josephus says that "upon burning of the holy house itself" they brought the ensigns "to" the temple, not "into" as your misquote has it here. That's a big difference.
Why would the Romans bring their ensigns "into" a burning building? They wouldn't and they didn't according to Josephus's text. It says clearly that they set them "over against the eastern gate" -- that is outside the temple. Those ensigns NEVER entered the temple.
And just exactly when did this Millenium begin????
No it's all very real. Yet Jesus cursed the fig tree and it burned up and withered, even to the roots.
For the gifts and callings of God are without reprentence (Rom.8:29)
Human life continues from those left alive after the Great Tribulation ends (Matthew 25) and there is a population explosion and life is prolonged over the 1000 year period.
And, for the record, the "bottomless pit" and the "chains" of Rev. 20 are symbols. The "strong man" of Matthew 12 is a symbol. The binding of Satan is real.
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