300 Anglicans Defect to Rome After Row Over Women Priests

Irish Independent ^ | 10/25/07 | John Cooney

[Kolokotronis]

“Why?”

That’s easy...revenge.

[FloreatIacobus]

One thing that interests me is that I’ve been hearing the TAC uses the Knott Missal and isn’t crazy about the Anglican Use. I looked up the original Knott and found that it had some Sarum elements, but I’m not sure those are in it anymore. People have been telling me that the modern English Missal has no Sarum aspects to it. Which I think is a kind of shame. That *really* is the true patrimony of the English Church.

The Sarum Use was the patrimony of the English Church, but it ceased to be used in 1559 and as such it is not a living organic rite of the Church. The English Missal (produced first the in '30s and new edition in the late '50s) followed the pattern of the then Roman Rite (now called the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite) rendering it into liturgical English - this strikes me as the best option, it is a living organic rite but adopts the Anglican 'style' through the linguistic idiom, it retains a few Sarum elements which came through into the Book of Common Prayer (such as Sundays after Trinity rather than Pentecost).

[Claud]

The Sarum Use was the patrimony of the English Church, but it ceased to be used in 1559 and as such it is not a living organic rite of the Church. The English Missal (produced first the in '30s and new edition in the late '50s) followed the pattern of the then Roman Rite (now called the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite) rendering it into liturgical English - this strikes me as the best option, it is a living organic rite but adopts the Anglican 'style' through the linguistic idiom, it retains a few Sarum elements which came through into the Book of Common Prayer (such as Sundays after Trinity rather than Pentecost).

That it's not a "living" usage doesn't concern me that much. It was forcibly removed from England, I think even restored once or twice (during Mary?), and when the Catholic hierarchy was re-established in England, there was talk of reviving it. It's been offered a few times since then...I think for the burial of the seamen who died on the Mary Rose. And as a kind of precedent, the Mozarabic Rite was almost entirely defunct when Cardinal Ximenes re-edited it and revived it in the 1500s.

Someone said elsewhere that the modern English Missal does *not* have the Sundays after Trinity--I couldn't confirm that though, as I saw that original Knott Missal had them. Do you have info on that?

If you're right that the current Knott Missal has Sarum elements, I'll take it! ;)