Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins
Perhaps you missed the question. Did God kill infants in Sodom and Gomorrah?
Because I trust in the God who gave them to me.
You "could do better" than to have the mind of Christ?
No. Just that I could do better.
Appreciate your reply..
Yep. I missed it entirely.
:)
Did God kill David and Bathsheba’s first son? 2 Sam. 12:14, 18
Very true, but every child of God was named by Him from before the foundation of the world. He knows every one of His, and at a time of His choosing, they will know Him.
I think Scripture tells us that the Holy Spirit is leading Christ's flock every day of their lives, into and out of sickness and disbelief and anger and fear. Because eventually, by the will and purpose of God, His sheep are lead through these trials and into "the light of the world" (John 8:12).
It's the Holy Spirit who compels our belief. To deny this, as so many do, is to deny the Holy Spirit.
Rather than go one by one, let’s sum it up.
What would you say is God’s body count of babies from your reading of scripture?
“What would you say is Gods body count of babies from your reading of scripture?”
As many as He willed according to His good purposes and for His glory; no more and no less. The mission fields are strewn with the remains of the children of faithful missionaries as are the fields with the remains of children who opposed the gospel. But not one was there without the summons of God.
God killed them all?
“God killed them all?”
Death is God’s judgment on sin. He has the power to create life, extend life and bring back to life from the dead.
Mat 10:28-30, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered”.
No one dies or lives without leave from God, so in a sense, because He uses second and third causes, He is responsible for all deaths and all life. In Him we move and have our being and by Him and through Him all things consist.
You will never get an argument from me about this. It seems pretty clear to me that only a man centered theology would claim that they control when, where, and how the Holy Ghost will indwell a Christian.
...eventually, by the will and purpose of God, His sheep are lead through these trials and into "the light of the world" (John 8:12).
Amen.
Concerning children I have the faith you do "because God gave them to me".
So... that’s a yes?
:)
I know. It’s not easy to look at it when we put it out straight: How many babies did God kill?
But that’s essentially what you were asking me.
No, there is no millstone around God’s neck.
LOL! I hope they are.
Are souls not eternal?
No. It never occurred to me that I am not. Besides, I don't hear "voices." I know what I am doing, and if what I am doing is love or not. If it's not love it's not from God. And when I see that something in the Bible is not love then it's not from God either.
No, the jews of Apostle Paul's time referred to their language as "Hebrew," but it's not the OT Hebrew; rtaher it is Aramaic. What they called Hebrew was Aramaic.
Why is it so important to claim it was written in Aramaic, or Greek, keep in mind the common practice is for people to write in the language they speak It's important because you have to understand the way it was written and in the concept and content and meaning of the language and culture in which it was written.
Otherwise you become a Protestant. :)
As far as i know she never preached another Gospel, but the gospel of love.
And you are preaching the gospel of judgment (your own), since you have already passed one on her. I am sure Mother Teresa's work pales in comparison to yours.
“but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” “Are souls not eternal?”
The word for destroy and perish as in “should not perish” is the same Greek word. It is a metaphor for eternal life apart from God, i.e. hell.
“So... thats a yes?”
That’s what I said. God is responsible, it’s according to His plan.
1 Chron. 21:11-17, “So Gad came to David, and said unto him, “Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee either three years’ famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.” And David said unto Gad, “I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man.” So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.
And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, “It is enough, stay now thine hand.” And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite. And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the LORD stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces. And David said unto God, “Is it not I that commanded the people to be numbered? even I it is that have sinned and done evil indeed; but as for these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, O LORD my God, be on me, and on my father’s house; but not on thy people, that they should be plagued.”
verse 27, “And the LORD commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof”
If not God, then who has the power to surprize God and do anything outside of His plan?
A "yes" to God killed all the babies? Now that's a body count.
If not God, then who..?
That's your conundrum. Me, I'd trust Him with my kids.
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